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View Poll Results: What components do you prefer?
Shimano 17 22.97%
SRAM 37 50.00%
Whatever is on sale 14 18.92%
Who needs a deraillieur? 6 8.11%
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Old 05-29-06, 12:20 PM   #1
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SRAM the only way to go

In the past month I've seen 5 new 8sp shimano chains brake at my work (yes they where installed right). I got the ok from the owner to order SRAM chains for the shop. No more shimano chains. I've used SRAM components for the last 3 years and as of last year no shimano on my bike and no problems ever. Is it me or shimano is not the same as is once was. Shimano does two things right their cassettes are better than SRAM and the components are mechanic friendly to use.

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Old 05-29-06, 12:55 PM   #2
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Apart from riding a sram drivetrain equipped bike around the shop (no too fond of the shifters), i have no experience with Sram. I do have a Sram Powerlink chain on my bike, which is hella sweet to take off/put on to clean.
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Old 05-29-06, 12:57 PM   #3
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Well, considering most all the shimano components on my 11 year old trek 930 are still stock. I prefer shimano.
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Old 05-29-06, 01:30 PM   #4
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I have been using SRAM for a little over a year now. I have no intentions of ever going back to Shimano. I'll stick to SRAM and their 1:1 ratio, it just works. Since switching ghost shifting is just a bad memory. The only Shimano I will use is their cassette's and front derailleurs. Once SRAM loses some weight on those two components I'll be able to go 100% SRAM.

Oh, I don't use any Shimano on my roadies either, they are both campy equiped.
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Old 05-29-06, 01:33 PM   #5
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I would like to try SRAM components in the future. Although their chain I am using keeps getting tight links like every other month. I guess it's my bike.
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Old 05-29-06, 01:36 PM   #6
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Old 05-29-06, 01:58 PM   #7
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I'm all SRAM. It took a while to get used to the trigger shifters (push-push) but I started pulling the upshift lever forward and it is so much easier. No more shifting whenever you hit a bump, plus it feels so much more natural too.
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Old 05-29-06, 03:16 PM   #8
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Sram, shifts a lot smoother than what I've experienced with past shimano.
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I ride Sram X-0 with grip shifters, and the performance is excellent. There is a Wippermann chain on my Whyte and an XTR front mech because I have an FSA crank. The rear mech and shifters can't be faulted. I have a similar set up on the Giant, except for an Sram chain.
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I ride Sram X-0 with grip shifters, and the performance is excellent. There is a Wippermann chain on my Whyte and an XTR front mech because I have an FSA crank. The rear mech and shifters can't be faulted. I have a similar set up on the Giant, except for an Sram chain.
Dang!! Are you an M.D. or just single? I can say that the most I will probably ever be able to shell out bucks for is XT group. I greatly prefer XT over X-9.

Sure we'd all love to throw down $250 for a rear derailleur, but heck you can get an XT for $39. Out-shifts XTR by far...XTR is just lighter.

As far as SRAM vs. Shimano...until X-0 stuff gets cheaper, I'll stick with XT. Either way, when you get up into that level of componentry there shouldn't be any failure from either brand. My LX group was flawless.
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SRAM X0 is the top of the line stuff. It's definitely above the XT level. Sram X9 is about XT level. Sure, XT rear ders are $20 cheaper than SRAM X9, but the SRAM shifters are much cheaper than Shimano stuff. That's where the comparision between XT and X9 evens out.
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I agree about XT being inferior to X-0. I wan't saying that. I was saying XT vs. X-9.

I'm just blown away by how pricey the X-0 crap is. Seriously $250 for a rear derailleur?

As far as shifters go, I'm perfectly content with my LX shifters. I haven't ever had them miss a shift. I wonder about the folks out there that do. Do they maintian them?

I dunno, I don't race. I just ride as much as possible so it's not worth the extra mega-fortune for me to even consider XTR.
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Dang!! Are you an M.D. or just single? I can say that the most I will probably ever be able to shell out bucks for is XT group. I greatly prefer XT over X-9.

Sure we'd all love to throw down $250 for a rear derailleur, but heck you can get an XT for $39. Out-shifts XTR by far...XTR is just lighter.

As far as SRAM vs. Shimano...until X-0 stuff gets cheaper, I'll stick with XT. Either way, when you get up into that level of componentry there shouldn't be any failure from either brand. My LX group was flawless.
Judging by the muscles on my right forearm I am single. My fondness for Sram is fuelled by my bike builder having not one, but two houses full of gear, and his healthy relationship with ebay. Besides, being teetotal and a non smoker gives me a bit of extra pocket money to splash out on bikes.
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If I remember right, up here in Canada X-9 and XT are the same price. I use gripshift for most of the last 12 years and are my favorite. I started out on the old 500's if anyone remember them. And you can get gripshift for nothing. But I have to say the SRAM triggers has some getting use to. I still have people that see SRAM on a bike and want nothing to do with that bike. But these are the same people that has to have a Trek because Lance uses one.
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They are both good for me. I usaly go with whatever is cheaper.
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ive used both extensivly, and chose SRAM for my current ride, working in a shop i get to see alot of old drive trains. sram stuff is easier to work on (for me), sram stuff 'feels' better, probably somthing to do with the 1:1 ratio, i like the double push layout, its simple (shimano's solution to gripping, shifting and braking was dual control)

shimano's cassettes are better though, and as for chains, im not impressed by either companies offerings (the pc91 hollowpin im using now is stretched almost to the point where its going to start wearing the cassette after, 410 miles - gritty miles mind you)

im looking forward to next years sram, where specs are going to filter down the group sets. plus theyll be coming out with what looks to be a very nice front mech (the current top sram F mech is the x-gen, which looks crap, doesnt shift all that well, and is heavy, im currently using an old deore front)

sram are also strong on other fronts, lets not forget, truative, avid and rockshox are all under the SRAM banner. i use avid brakes, and rockshox forks, and if i bent my XT hollowtech cranks, they'll probably be replaced by a truative unit...

after witnessing what sram have done to turn rockshox into what they are at the moment gives me a good piece of mind, watching shimano trying to reinvent standards and over complicating every component they touch just makes me want to stay well away...
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I run shimano on my trail bike and sram on my commuter. To be honest? They both work just fine.
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10 years ago, I did everything I could to avoid shimano, and I was very successfull. Then I broke down and bought xtr v-brakes. Right now the only shimano parts I have are the v-brakes (sram levers), front der. and cassette... thats it. As soon as I can get rid of that stuff, I will.
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If you want to improve shifting, upgrade the shifters before you do the rear deraillure.

I'm using LX rear deraillure / Deore shifters and its OK...but if i was concerned about shifting (which i havn't been yet), i would upgrade the shifter. Keeping that in mind, a propably set up deraillure will still perform exceptionaly.
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I'm liking the X-7/X-9 on my Slayer way more than the XT stuff on all my others bikes. Smoother, quieter, easier.
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Judging by the muscles on my right forearm I am single. My fondness for Sram is fuelled by my bike builder having not one, but two houses full of gear, and his healthy relationship with ebay. Besides, being teetotal and a non smoker gives me a bit of extra pocket money to splash out on bikes.
Hey, even married guys build up forearm muscles too.....LOL
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I have always hated shimano chains . I used to use Sedis-Sport chains instead. Now that they are gone(I think Sram may have bought them) I use Sram chains. I love my 8-speed XTR shifters+ deraileur though , they shift great every time , and have stood the test of my ham-fisted DH-ing technique . My trademark maneuver is called a "Yard Sale".
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i hated my Shimano stuff, it would ghost shift and sucked flat out, so did the shimano chains i went through. Swtiched to SRAM chain first, loved it, then I went to SRAM X.9 loved it even more, broke my X.9 shifter now have the X.0 trigger, and I LOVE IT SO MUCH. It is absolutely perfect, from the SRAM cassette to the great shifting of the 1:1 X.9 and the adjustability of the X.0 trigger shifter it fits me perfectly and shifts great
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I think sram is way better for DH/Freeride (heavy duty)use but for xc and road you cant really beat shimano, they have it down to an art. sram is built more durable so if you happen to bang a log or a rock with your der. it doesnt bend and get destroyed like a shimano would. Of course you just cant beat the bling of a new sram XO!!!!

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