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Old 05-29-06, 01:05 PM   #1
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Despite Manitou's despicable service, I fixed my elastomer fork. You can too.

Manitou has bar non the worst service I have evern incountered. I have a 98 Xvert fork which is an elastomer type of fork. 8 years of jumps and hard trail riding trashed it. Manitou will not answer emails, and their phone line seems to make it sound like their phone line got disconnected. The one time I got through they tolds me to go to a dealer to get it rebuilt, and I told them **** you and hung the phone up. Later I went to a manitou dealer, and they told me it was a lost cause. Several BF members also said it was a lost cause.

I was quite close to getting a Rock Shox fork yesterday when I was at cycle and fitness, and the manager informed me that all I had to do was look through their old elastomer bin, find one of the proper width, cut it down to the maximum size that will fit (for maximum springiness), and install it. If they didn't have the proper sized elastomer, he told me to go to the hardware store and get a dowel to cut down and add tension that way, but they did have the right kind so it wasn't an issue. The other side he told me to just to fill to taste with 10 weight motor oil. More oil= more tension and less means softer. Basicaly I was ready to spend 500 bucks, and with less than 10 minutes of very easy work, my fork is still beat up looking, but now functioning as new.

The moral of this story is that if you have an old elastomer fork that everybody tells you is garbage, all is not lost.
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Old 05-29-06, 01:30 PM   #2
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Maybe this might come in handy for me some day.
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Old 05-29-06, 04:12 PM   #3
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you fill elastomer shocks with oil? Or do you mean just coat the elasomer parts.
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you fill elastomer shocks with oil? Or do you mean just coat the elasomer parts.

yea, I don't think the Xvert had open bath damping. Take a look at an exploded diagram and you'll see that the damper is sealed. By filling the leg with oil you might have created an accidental open bath damper as the sliders swim through the 10wt.
I'm glad it worked out for you, but you should have at least taken the forks apart to degunk the innards and inspect the bushings and uppers for cracks and wear. After 8 years of "jumping and hard trail riding" I would retire any fork.
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you could also try Cambriabikes because they have the elastomers for old Manitou forks in stock
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Interesting. Manitou's CS has been known to be awful, and by that I don't find it interesting, I find the rebuild cool though.
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I still have a few old elastomers and caps/spacers lying around from my old 98 XVertR. I would usually break at least one of those caps on every couple rides. I find it hard to believe yours took 8 years of jumps.


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The moral of this story is that if you have an old elastomer fork that everybody tells you is garbage, all is not lost.
Maybe not all was lost, but there was never really much there to begin with, IMHO.

Oddly enough, in 98, Manitou's customer service was great - they sent me all those spare parts free for the asking.
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I have a 98 Xvert fork which is an elastomer type of fork. 8 years of jumps and hard trail riding trashed it.
First of all Santa Cruz has the worst service, second of all maybe it's time to upgrade your fork to something newer before it fails on you and you blame them for that also. I have never had a problem with Manitou's cs, maybe next time you shouldn't tell them to F*ck off?
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I still have a few old elastomers and caps/spacers lying around from my old 98 XVertR. I would usually break at least one of those caps on every couple rides. I find it hard to believe yours took 8 years of jumps.
I didn't have my giant for the first 5 years. At the risk of making an ass out of me and umption, I assumed it was used hard for those first 5 years. The previous owner said it had been. The guy I bought it from 3 years ago at a garage sale is a former racer, so I have no reason to doubt what he said. It is altogether possible that he rebuilt the fork himself once or twice, because it was in pristine working condition when I bought it.

"8 years of jumps and hard trail riding" can mean a lot of things, and in this case it means an assumption of the first 5 years, and 3 years of no more than a few hundred jumps of 5 feet or less, and probably 1,200 or so trail miles, and 2,000 miles of mixed condition road riding.

I'm not sure what you mean by those caps, but nothing has broken on my fork yet.
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