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Old 01-21-03, 02:31 PM   #1
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stupid question time - what exactly does "freeride" mean? "north-shore"?

Hey guys, I know what type of riding I like to do, and what type of bike I wanted, and now all the cross country guys are turning their nose up at my 5" suspension saying that's only for freeriding. I like small jumps, really rough downhill sections, and lots of mud, and I like my new bike, but I'd still like to know exactly what the term means. I think some people use the term to describe drops and drops alone. Also I'd like to know what "North-Shore style" is.
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Hey man to me this is how it is

Freeride= what ever you want it to be...there for the name free is in there

Hucking= exactly as it sounds...dropping off of tall things

North Shore= to me it is...alot of ladder riding, teeter totter(spelling?) big wet roots... That's what I think of

XC= a bunch of road geeks on fat tired bikes (I'm just kidding), no xc is more of a racing thing to me.... but if you just ride xc...i think it's more freeriding, because you dont' need a 12lb bike for that...you can use a 40lb if you want.

I'm sure others have many different views...I think it's really up to you man, just go ride and have fun, that's what it's all about. And when we start truning up our noses at someone cause of their bike then that's when we've all lost it. He get a huffy and ride with me...i don't care!
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Old 01-21-03, 04:08 PM   #3
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I'm not sure what "huckin" is, but it sure does sound like something I need to be doing. I crash alot, so huckin' just seems to fit my riding style heheh. By the way, you teens and twenty somethings need to be thankful, they didn't have huckin freeride bighit stinky bullit bikes when I was your age. And when you reach my age (40 in a month or two), that little voice inside that says pain is bad starts to get a little louder. Everything is still fun, in fact more fun in some ways, but that stinkin' voice!, it won't go away!!! And it disturbs each of my rides!!!! j/k

Freeride to me is doing XC with a bad attitude. It's having the equipment to hit things a little harder, and a little bigger. And to take the trails (or no trails) that you wouldn't before on your 24 lb bike. Also having the kahooney's don't hurt either.

I think North Shore is a big gang of riders that tried to claim the freeride movement first, but I may be wrong. I think it's kinda like Gary Fisher claiming to have built the first mountain bike. Heck, by his standards of what he called a mountain bike, we built the first ones when we were kids waay before he did.
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Freeriding = Too many people ask.....starting to get sick of it...
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Old 01-21-03, 04:18 PM   #5
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starting to get sick of it...
Seems like it would have been much easier to just skip right over this post and not even read it then.

I get sick of people asking how big of tires they can fit on their Jeep after a certain sized lift, so I just quit reading those posts. Worked wonders on my stress level.

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The whole time i thought the North Shore was just a location
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What a bunch of gripey grumps!! By the way- Jeep: 1" BL, 32's, stock sus. Sorry corndoggy, couldn't resist.

North Shore? A location? Surely it can't be that simple I'm kinda new at this falling off rocks stuff so be patient with me. I can feel it now though, the first time I drop off some big thing, then crash and break either my bike or my me I'm gonna look up and say "WHAT WAS I THINKING??"
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Old 01-21-03, 04:39 PM   #8
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Cool. TJ on a 4" Genuine coil lift and 33" BFG MT's here!
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Here's my interpretation of it:

freeridng- a big group kinda ride with technical sections involving drops, chutes, and just in general a good ol' downhill. Freeriding can also just be riding for the fun of it. It's really a word that has a lot of differant opinions than a type of riding

north shore-super technical, big drops, wet, teeter totters, other man made obstacles(sp). It's in my view what freeriding aspires too
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It was a wild guess on my part as to the North Shore, it probably does have some meaning that I haven't read yet.

corndoggy- to get our Heep thing back to a bike thing, here's a Bullit on the back of my Heep on a creek crossing yesterday, on the way to one of my favorite riding spots. This is the beginning, and easy part of a 3 mile long road:
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Cool. I just basically got that same frame as yours but in the Haro flavor. Supposedly the Haro designer and the Santa Cruz guy is real good buddies and live right down the street from each other, so what's his name at Haro builds them for Santa Cruz, or sold them the design, or something. Suppsed to be the exact same frame though.
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Freeriding = Too many people ask.....starting to get sick of it...
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Its all personal (except shore) To me freeriding is technical and difficuly. It isn't about speed but technical lines inceasing difficulty while trying desperately to maintain speed

Shore - man made and technical (freeriding and shore can be one in the same)

However a lot of people I know believe that unless you are hucking (large drops done slowly (not dhing but actually hucking yourself off of the edge)) you aren't freeriding.

In either case, freeriding imo has similarities to xc, trials, dh, ds, shore in one word.

MBUK MAGAZINES DEFINITION OF FREERIDE
FREERIDE (n) - A term descriptive of a type of a mountain bike riding which has as many meanings as people who use it. One thing is certain, freeride is NOT racing, although there may be competitions.

FREERIDE (FRANCE) - Riding radical but on natural terrain. Much of the emphasis is on linked technical downhill single track. The terrain must not be modified in any way. "if you uze ze shovel it iz not ze freeride" -frank roman

FREERIDE (CANADA) - Riding radical downhill trails which are almost entirely modified or man-made. Typified by wooden catwalks, seesaws and teeter totters.

FREERIDE (Old School) - Riding long distances on light full suspension bikes, taking the most technical routes.

FREERIDE (NEW SCHOOL) - Riding highly technical downhills slowly (which is usually as fast as possible) using a cross between downhill biking and trials riding

FREERIDE (for real) - Playing around much as we've always done, but way bigger and nastier because the bikes can soak up so much more punishment.

Just thought you guys might be interested.
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I like this definition the best!

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Corndoggy, to clarify, yes the Bullit and the Extreme have almost the same design. The pivot is slightly different and the aluminum tubing is a different grade. And the price, that's WWWWAAAAAAYYYYYY different. What you paid for the whole bike, was less than just a Bullit frame/rear shock!

But, that rear shock is inifinitely adjustable.

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It was a wild guess on my part as to the North Shore, it probably does have some meaning that I haven't read yet.

corndoggy- to get our Heep thing back to a bike thing, here's a Bullit on the back of my Heep on a creek crossing yesterday, on the way to one of my favorite riding spots. This is the beginning, and easy part of a 3 mile long road:
MikeOK - that's not a Gemini on the back of the vehicle - is it? If it is, consider yourself slapped, and hard. If it's yours, how do you find it?
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MikeOK - that's not a Gemini on the back of the vehicle - is it? If it is, consider yourself slapped, and hard. If it's yours, how do you find it?
No....its a SANTA CRUZ BULLIT.....like he said before like a million times. I dont think he would get caught dead riding a gemini
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Okay, I heard there was a clone of the Bullit out there but I didn't kow what it was. But hey, if my bike has 2 wheels, pedals and a handlebar I would still be happy
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No....its a SANTA CRUZ BULLIT.....like he said before like a million times. I dont think he would get caught dead riding a gemini
There was something about the shape of the rear end that looks like a Gemini. Then again, it looks to be the same colour as a Gemini - black. Then again, there's nothing wrong with imitation, it's said to be the sincerest form of flattery. As you can see, the Bullit is a classy bike, and if it looked like a Gemini, then maybe it's because it is a Gemini by another name.

But then again, Klein, you never have anything good to say about anything or anyone, so I reckon you miss an awful lot.
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But then again, Klein, you never have anything good to say about anything or anyone, so I reckon you miss an awful lot.

Hey....I put a smilie at the end Ok so i'm not trying to be mean or anything......If you knew about freeride bikes you would know that the bullit looks nothing like the gemini, but they are both single pivot. On the other hand, I pretty much know nothing about road bikes. We all know different amounts of different things.
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Klein, you might have noticed my sarcastic 'smilie'. That was a 'typo' as I meant to use a laugh as well. Sorry if it caused any offence, none was intended except in the humourous vein I was trying to imply. Seems you can never be too careful with those smilies.

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North Shore referes to the northern area of Vancouver, BC Canada where that particular flavor of mountain biking was invented. Its is typified by long wooden bridges that evolved into stunts and the usual rainforest-like muddy and rocky terrain of the region. The North Shore Mountain Bike Association (NSMBA) is constantly involved in trail-access discussions with the seven major landowners from the Greater Vancouver Regional District, B.C. Parks, Canada Mortgage and Housing Corp., British Pacific Properties, Grouse Mountain and North and West Vancouver districts.


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BTW guys, the Gemini and the Bullit do in fact share the same suspension design with the single pivot. And, when the Gemini first came out, the usual comment to the way it rode was, "Like a Bullit, only taller!"

I'd love to have either bike! If you want to go the custom build route like MikeOK, get a SC Bullit. If you want one already assembled, get the Gemini!

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North Shore referes to the northern area of Vancouver, BC Canada where that particular flavor of mountain biking was invented. Its is typified by long wooden bridges that evolved into stunts and the usual rainforest-like muddy and rocky terrain of the region. The North Shore Mountain Bike Association (NSMBA) is constantly involved in trail-access discussions with the seven major landowners from the Greater Vancouver Regional District, B.C. Parks, Canada Mortgage and Housing Corp., British Pacific Properties, Grouse Mountain and North and West Vancouver districts.


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Wow for someone living in Ohio you sure know the inner workings of the politics behind the shore
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North Shore referes to the northern area of Vancouver, BC Canada...

Unless of course you also surf. Then you could possibly be speaking of Hawaii

Freeride is any type of riding that frees you from the confinements of reality.:cool:

For some it could be a cruise down the bike path on a Motive. For others it is hucking a 40 to 50lb bike w/ mass travel off a 40 foot drop.

Freeriding is in the eyes of the cyclist.

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