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    Need tough wheels, dangit!

    I just picked up my XT Rhyno Lite's that my LBS detentioned, spoke prepped with linseed oil, and re-built. I rode them on by 5" trailbike down town off several 3-4 ft drops to flat and 4.5-5 ft drops to tranny. (I compress my body to absorb shock) Then I did 6-8 runs down a few sets of stairs. Not gaps, just going down stairs pretty fast. My 2.35's were pumped up to about 45-50 PSI.

    By the time I got home they were doing the same ol' thing. "click, click, click" The spokes loosen up and the wheel flexes as it rolls. I retentioned the dadgum things myself this time and true'd the wheel back up.

    I need a wheel that:
    1. is strong enough not to loosen up after 2 hrs of riding
    2. is not freakin heavy like the Deemax or Bombshells
    3. has quick release front and rear

    Do they make such an animal? I was thinking about having my LBS build me a set of XT Sun Singletrack with straight guage spokes and brass nipples. (I can use my XT hubs from my other wheelset)

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    Those aren't fr wheels. They are burly xc wheels. Singletracks are in the same range...you need to look at something stronger.

    You will never get number 1 with number 2 with the way you seem to ride. Suck it up and accept the weight.

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    HEY! Bombshell's arn't that heavy. Go for Sun MTX or S-types, plenty strong and not that heavy either. Sun Singletracks are okay but don't take a lot of hard abuse, they'd be a lot like your rhyno lites.

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    What bike do you have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maelstrom
    You will never get number 1 with number 2 with the way you seem to ride. Suck it up and accept the weight.

    +1.. seriously, you guys expect a wheelset to endure that kind of abuse and want it to be light too. Come on.

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    Actually I will agree with Jason, the s-types are killer rims. Solid and lightish. I run them on my dh and xc bikes. It is probably the closest you will get to light and strong...still not gonna hold up for very long.

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    I've had to tighten up my rear S-type a few times, but usually it's a 1 or 2 spoke thing, just a few get loose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcoine
    +1.. seriously, you guys expect a wheelset to endure that kind of abuse and want it to be light too. Come on.
    You make it sound like a 3-4 foot drop is "abuse". I didn't think it was that big.

    Well, I'm gonna seer clear of the singletrack's I guess. I've never heard of the S-types. I didn't see them on Sun-ringle's site.

    Did I miss them or are they new?
    Can I use my XT hubs?
    Should I go brass or alum. nips?
    Which spokes are best for my application?

    Jason222 - I ride Jamis Dakar XLT 5" with Fox Vanilla 130 R fork

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    S-types are the slightly different, OEM version of the MTX rims. Just get the MTX rims and build it up with your own hubs if you'd like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chelboed
    You make it sound like a 3-4 foot drop is "abuse". I didn't think it was that big.

    Well, I'm gonna seer clear of the singletrack's I guess. I've never heard of the S-types. I didn't see them on Sun-ringle's site.

    Did I miss them or are they new?
    Can I use my XT hubs?
    Should I go brass or alum. nips?
    Which spokes are best for my application?

    Jason222 - I ride Jamis Dakar XLT 5" with Fox Vanilla 130 R fork
    Are you talking about a "pinkbike foot" or a real foot? Either way, I didn't realize what bike you had. With that much travel, you shouldn't have that many problems. I would not let your LBS build you any more wheels.

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    Lol what are pinkbike feet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chone
    Lol what are pinkbike feet?
    about 3 or 4 inches

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    Man, thats weird, I would be dropping like 18 feet according to Pink Bike?

    Is there a back story or something I'm missing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chone
    Man, thats weird, I would be dropping like 18 feet according to Pink Bike?

    Is there a back story or something I'm missing?
    A lot of kids on pink bike have trouble with actual distance.
    Like a circus monkey on a stolen Harley......

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcoine
    Are you talking about a "pinkbike foot" or a real foot? Either way, I didn't realize what bike you had. With that much travel, you shouldn't have that many problems. I would not let your LBS build you any more wheels.

    I don't think it's my LBS. He builds his own freeride wheels (and urban 24's) all the time. I've seen the 9 and 12 footers he hucks.

    The real problem is that I got the Rhyno's for X-mas. Ya know...$130 JensonUsa stuff. (machine built, no spoke prep)

    I think if we start with a clean slate ie...new spokes and rims, it'd be okay. I was just under the impression that Rhyno Lites were tough. I didn't know they were XC wheels.

    I'll look in to the MTX. I don't mind a 650g-700g rim if it's gonna stay true.

    How 'bout the Rhyno Lite XL? Still XC...just welded?

    Should probably stick with the MTX. I'm open to other brands as well. Heck, how about Mavic 729's or something? Any Mavic rims worthy of a decent technical trail or a 4-5 footer to tranny?

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    What y'all think of these? They're wide. Darren "Bearclaw" abuses them. They sound pretty dang tough for only being 560g.


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    I don't know something seems cheesy, Rhyno Lites are marketed as dual slamom/downhill/clydesdale rims, I have Sun DS2+XC rims which are marketed as lightweight XC race rims (400grams!) and they hold up well remarkably even after all I put them through (which does include 6 footers with transitions and 3-4 footers flat to flat and more).

    Hmmm...

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    Could have been the stairs that did 'em in.

    According to Sun-Ringle's site, the Rhyno Lite 'XL' is considered a dual slalom/downhill/clydesdale rims, not the Rhyno Lite.

    I guess the XL makes a difference.

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    i wouldnt go for those bombshells because they are sooooo wide. 36mm is huge. the smallest tire you could ever run comfortably is a 2.3. i like a little bit skinnier rim.

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    I like wide.

    I'm running 2.35's.

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    What about the Azonic Outlaw wheelset?

    I read a couple of reviews that were very positive. I talked to a dude that rides DH (shuttle runs) and he recommended them to me.

    Just a thought.

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    Switch over to Mammoths. ERD is close enough so you don't even have to change spokes - - just lace 'em up. Yes, they're a little heavier, but they'll handle abuse that the RhynoLites won't and they are pretty economical. I assume you are running straight-gauge 14 spokes and not some foo-foo butted ones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by corcernicus
    i wouldnt go for those bombshells because they are sooooo wide. 36mm is huge. the smallest tire you could ever run comfortably is a 2.3. i like a little bit skinnier rim.
    I hear ya in a way. My front wheel is a Bombshell Fatboy which is 38.4 mm wide, and I'm running a 2.6 up front. It does rub a bit, but he could definately fit bigger than 2.3!

    The Fatdaddy's would be a great investment.

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    Oh and by the way, S-types and MTX's are 34mm wide, just a hair smaller than the Fatdaddy's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dminor
    I assume you are running straight-gauge 14 spokes and not some foo-foo butted ones?
    Butted spokes actually build a stronger wheel, because the spoke can stretch easier during use to absorb some of the force. This reduces stress on the rim and hub.

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