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Old 01-24-03, 11:05 AM   #1
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Getting back in

Having been away from the sport for 5 yrs, and with all the new technology, I feel like a rookie again. I'm going to be purchasing a new bike soon so I would like some advice. I'm not a super aggressive rider but would like to become one. I'm 5'9" and 180lb. My price range is going to be $1000-2000. Now I have a few bikes picked out that I would like to have. They are Cannondale f800 or f600, Trek 8000, and Kona Kula or explosive. Which bike do you guys think is the best of the bunch. I my self am leaning towards the F800. But my girlfriend believes that I will be waisting my money on a $2000 bike at this time. Can anybody else suggest any other bikes that I should look at. I prefer hard tails and disk brakes is a big bonus. Oh yah my last bike was a Trek 8000.

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All the bikes you listed are good bikes. What style of riding do you see yourself into? Cross country (XC), Urban, Trials, Downhill (DH) or freeriding (FR)?

I myself call my style of riding more XC than FR, but it's abusive XC, so more FR. Does that make sense? Not to me either. Let's call it agressive XC!

Get a bike that suits your style. If you're going to get into longer rides w/o a lot of jumps or with drops smaller than 2'0" you'll be o.k. with more of a XC type bike like the Cannondales. If you're going to be riding very agressively, consider the Kona or a bike like the Specialized P.2 or the Kona Roast. If you're going to be riding bigger drops (3' +++) consider a FR bike and possibly full suspension.

Ride them all and buy the one that is most comfortable! Buy what you can afford, but be reasonable with your budget. $1,000 these days buys a lot of bike. Beyond that range, it's just a matter of better components. (Things you can upgrade to!)

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Kona Explosif! I just bought my second Explosif frame.

I've also owned an F800 and a 7000...IMHO, there is no comparison. The steel frame has a very smooth ride and the geometry is perfect...again, IMHO
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I myself call my style of riding more XC than FR, but it's abusive XC, so more FR. Does that make sense? Not to me either. Let's call it agressive XC!
A new category is needed. This is what I do. I don't go big enough for 'freeriding' and I don't go small enough for plain old xc haha
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As for the bike. I love Kona so I would go with the explosif
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Sorry ppl. I forgot to mention that that was Canadian funds. So about $50 US. HAhahah. Just kidding. It's about $600-1300 US

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Possibly take a look at the kona Stuff as well. Lots of fun on that bike ...It comes with disk brakes and is burlier than the xc rigs you have mentioned. The geometry takes a short time to get used to but is lots of fun in the sun
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The Explosif can be had for around $1300 I think? I've also heard good things about the Stuff.

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A new category is needed. This is what I do. I don't go big enough for 'freeriding' and I don't go small enough for plain old xc haha
That's me too mael. We need to come up with yet another term me thinks..

BikeTyke- welcome to the board. Your price range is just right to get a quality ride. It's a very personal choice which bike to get, but from experience I can tell you that the best way to decide is to go down to your LBS and spend a few hours test riding everything they have. For example, some people want HT and light weight. Some want a duallie and light weight. Personally, I want as much suspension as I can afford and weight is not my first consideration. And remember, light is always expensive, but not always better. There are so many choices right now that the only way to bash through the confusion is to ask questions and test ride.

About the only thing else I can say is if I were in the market for a HT I would look at the Kona's first. And chromolly... Good luck.
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If you want a hardtail, get the Cannondale. I promise it wont disappoint. I just built up an F900 and I couldn't be happier.
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Well I'm going to be primarily riding trails and the occasional down hill stuff. I would like to do airs but nothing crazy. This bike is going to be my only bike so it has to do everything. That is why I liked the cannondale f800. It is light, disk brakes, good components and lots of travel in the front fork that locks out plus it looks cool. Has anybody heard any reliability problems with the lefty shock? a2psyklnut... You said if I'm going to be doing drops bigger than 3' then to get a different bike. Will the Cannondale HT not be able to take the pounding?

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BikeTyke- the c'dales are top notch bikes, but you might want to read another discussion here:

Cannondale

Some of those people have been following this closer than I have, but I remember somebody mentioning that there was going to be more news monday (I think). This might help me to make up my mind if I were buying right now.
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At my LBS I found a Cannondale f1000 (Woody) for $1700 Canadian ($1050US) Just my size. It is last years model so it is discounted almost $1000 CAN. What do you guys think? Also any other news on CAnnondale yet? Are they in or out?

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As far as hitting drops bigger than 3'0", the Cannondale's will hold up as well as any other lightweight XC race bike. Those designed for going fast and hitting small jumps. I consider a 3'0" drop a little out of the range as the "designed purpose" of the bike. Sure it'll take an occasional drop, but repeated drops will destroy it and any other lightweight XC frame.

As far as Cannondale's future, time will tell. We called them on Friday and got no answer, Sat the ans. machine said they were closed on weekends (they never were before), and this morning, there was no answer. If you read the article at Bicycle Retailer, you can read the writing on the wall. They're done! (For now anyways!) Let's hope they resurrect the bicycle division!

If you're concerned about warranty, I'd stay away from C'Dale untill this mess is cleared up. If you're looking for a deal on a bike, let me know. We've got some killer deals on some right now!

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Well dispite everybody's warnings I got the C'Dale F800. I fell in love with it the moment I laid eyes on it. I tried to look at other bikes but nothing compaired with the C'Dale. I looked at Specialized StumpJumper; too expensive, Trek 8000; no disk brakes, Giant XTC2; too generic (sp???), Davinci; too expensive for simmilar setup. KOna; I really didn't like any of the bikes, Norco came close but the fact they used to be Canadian Tire brand bugged me. So everything pointed to CANNONDALE. The guys at the shop assured me that the bike division is all well and nothing is going to change. The C'Dale rep said that Fox or Harley is going to most likey purchase the MX division .Plus the free disk brake upgrade from shimano to Hayes helped too. ALso the free shoes and helmet.

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Cool & congrats, now get some pictures of it. (Muddy pics preferred!)

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Well here's a pic of it from Cannondale.com. It is exactly the same as the one in the pic but i got Hayes Hyraulic brakes instead of the shimano and different pedals. I was hoping to strip all the stickers off the frame but they are clearcoated on. Man I can't wait to start breaking stuff on it so I can ugrade stuff. Probably first thing will be the shifters. But that is later after I recover from paying for this sucker.

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Wow! That is one good looking bike
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Wow...I must say except for the lefty that is one hot bike. Colour scheme is incredible
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Flames rule! Nice bike, although I don't realy dig the single sided "fork".
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