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Old 07-10-06, 08:21 PM   #1
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The worst bike ever

I was looking around ebay and found this thing. Just reading the components list made me laugh..... I can't believe they want 1000+ for that thing.
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why is it the worst?
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Old 07-10-06, 09:13 PM   #3
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They put Juicy 7's on that POS? You gotta be kidding me.

And, what the hell is a "fluid injected" frame? Is that what happens when water gets in the bearings?
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That's unusual. Ha plano im close to there.
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They put Juicy 7's on that POS? You gotta be kidding me.

And, what the hell is a "fluid injected" frame? Is that what happens when water gets in the bearings?

"fluid-injected" is just another way of saying hydro-formed aluminum.

I'm curious why one would come down harder on this bike than any other pre-assembled, overpriced boat anchor I see people drooling over at the LBS. The only difference is, the name isn't well known.

And, yes, it has Juicy 7's. So why did the OP say he "laughed just reading the components?"

Hmmmm....
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It has bottom of the line components. Altus, and alivio. Rst gila fork, which isn't a great fork. Suntour crank.

For 1000 level, its a piece of crap.
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It has bottom of the line components. Altus, and alivio. Rst gila fork, which isn't a great fork. Suntour crank.

For 1000 level, its a piece of crap.
I agree. Just saying that, what the LBS charges you for a similar frame(made in Taiwan, but with a "name brand" sticker on it) with Juicy brakes, plus a real fork...and you are overcharged anyway.

Don't expect a "real" all-mountain for $1000.00.

Best to just build your own, and stop complaining. It's pretty much all crap (except for the really, really expensive OTD stuff.)
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I agree. Just saying that, what the LBS charges you for a similar frame(made in Taiwan, but with a "name brand" sticker on it) with Juicy brakes, plus a real fork...and you are overcharged anyway.

Don't expect a "real" all-mountain for $1000.00.

Best to just build your own, and stop complaining. It's pretty much all crap (except for the really, really expensive OTD stuff.)
We've been through this argument before. Don't assume frame welds made in asian countries are all crap, and all north american welds are godly.

The truth is, I don't think anyone thinks the big dog brands have stronger or better frames. They just do a way better job advertising, and making spiffy colored frames. Plus, they are more readily available in many more places.
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We've been through this argument buddy. Don't assume frame welds made in asian countries are all crap, and all north american welds are godly.

The truth is, I don't think anyone thinks the big dog brands have stronger or better frames. They just do a way better job advertising, and making spiffy colored frames. Plus, they are more readily available in many more places.
*standing ovation*

EXACTLY my point. Thanks, Pheard.

Why title a thread "the worst bike ever", just because it's a China bike from an unknown company?

Does anyone really expect great component specs for $1000 or less.

If you haven't thrown a leg over a bike, and actually rode the hell out of it, you can't say it's the best or the worst, just that it's ugly.
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What I will never understand is why people assume Made in Asia is worse than Made in USA, seriously, what makes you think that?

It is an outrageous claim.
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What I will never understand is why people assume Made in Asia is worse than Made in USA, seriously, what makes you think that?

It is an outrageous claim.
It is a racist claim.
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*standing ovation*

EXACTLY my point. Thanks, Pheard.

Why title a thread "the worst bike ever", just because it's a China bike from an unknown company?

Does anyone really expect great component specs for $1000 or less.

If you haven't thrown a leg over a bike, and actually rode the hell out of it, you can't say it's the best or the worst, just that it's ugly.
He did make a pretty idiotic claim about "worst bike ever". Of course his comment about the component list, did make me laugh aswell. For a 1000 that is outrageous.

The only reason I'm looking at a specialized or trek hardtail in the 1100 range, is because I readily have many dealers in my area.
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It is a racist claim.
Well said.
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Old 07-10-06, 10:06 PM   #14
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I just like how they say the 19" frame will fit anyone from 5'4" to 6'4".
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I wouldnt say the WORST bike ever but it just seems like they set it up so people that dont know anything about mountain biking think its the beast bike in the world... I remember when i first started looking at bikes I thought that bikes couldnt even get more expensive then $1000. To any one without knowledge, that sounds like an amazing bike.
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I think this made me laugh the most



The put just "fox" as good, and then they actually compare specific models in the other two categories lol.

In the brakes systems, they compare juicy 7s and xts with "hayes hydraulic", so I guess they are saying all hayes hydraulic brakes are worse than the xt and 7s LMAO. Doesn't even make sense.
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They want more than a grand for it, and then they go and put a RST fork on it.
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For the price, this is the worst bike ever and it would take the stupidest person ever to buy it
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That bike looks very awkward.
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that is teh hawtness
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so you mean i made a bad purchase
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I notice they went with the 14 gram spokes, rather than the same old 14 guage that everyone else uses!
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That bike is...er.. Odd



RE Frame manufactures:

Most frames are made in Tawain, i think the only *main* one that still isn't is Cannondale. I dont think you should consider this when buying a bike! Just because its Tawain it dosn't make it 'not as good'. The only reason compainies probalby continue making frames in the USA so they can use it to sell the bike. "HandMade in USA"...who cares? Most frames (Giants, Kona's etc) have lifetime frame warrenty anyway!

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"Ultra-AMAZING PERFORMANCE!"
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You gotta love the cranks, though: Shimano SunTour SR - "square tapered and linear balanced"!

I guess the ad seemed funny because of the way the product descriptions were written.

This rocks too: "This is the HIGHEST BREED OF SHOCKS AVAILABLE TODAY!!!!
FULLY ADJUSTABLE AND COMPLETE LOCKOUT OPTION ALLOWS YOU TO HAVE A HARDTAIL!"
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