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Old 07-10-06, 10:11 PM   #1
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DH bike for XC too?

Alright a little life story here..

I am a roadie, but I go to school in the UP and in the summer, I am downstate where the roads are clogged with cars. I've been doing alot of riding, but since its so flat, its kinda boring but there are a few good mnt bike trails around. When I was in middle school/early highschool I had an alright starter hardtail xc bike but haven't mnt biked since. Then, from ever since I could ride a bike, I have always been a fan of BMXing although never got too into it, but have re-picked it up from time to time....

Alright now thats over, I am looking to pick up a mountain bike. I want it to be a hard tail for sure. Since I do enjoy a little urban bmx assult, I was thinking about picking up (what I see as a mnb/BMX hybrid) a Downhill bike. What I am wondering are how many people ride DH bikes for XC. I was looking at the GT Chucker 1.0. It has a double front chain ring, and I was looking on MTB reviews and people were saying it was realitively light. Could I use this on some trails with medium climbs or is that basicly limited the traditional Hardtail purpose built bikes?
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Old 07-10-06, 10:15 PM   #2
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I don't see why you can't, just be harder becuase a DH is usally heavier than an XC bike.
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a hardtail should be fine. marz makes forks that you can switch to shorter travel on the fly. i think that would be a good idea if you are climbing
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look into some hardtail freeride types, (i have transition's vagrant in mind) to maybe combine some of these interests (trail/urban/etc.)
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Old 07-11-06, 02:36 AM   #5
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I've got the chucker 1.0 and it isn't that heavy compared to some downhill bikes. I ride it pretty much everywhere I go, but the geometry isnt all that great for longer rides with lots of flat sections. I ride standing up alot so it doesn't bother me. It can be ridden up rather steep climbs without alot of hassle.
The Chucker or something similar should fine for the sort of riding you suggest.
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I wouldn't recommend the GT Chucker 1.0 for DH at all. Dirt jumping, yes, but not DH or street. The thing is too clumsy and strange.

The DH you will be doing will not be anything worthy of a full suspension bike, as you are a beginner at mountain biking. I'd suggest you get a hardtail with a bit of extra travel, and 8" hydros. A few that come to mind are the Norco Sasquatch's and above in that line. Click here if you're interested.

That bike has a very similar setup to mine, and I did LOTS of XC riding on it.
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When my friend first started getting into mountain biking, he had an old Specialized Hard Rock. One day he got hit by a car and settled for $2000. Then he splurged it all on the hottest bike he could find: a Giant AC3.

It was a dumb move considering that all we ride is XC, but since riding it all the time he's grown accustomed to the weight and can actually keep up with us up the hills.
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Was he okay after he got hit?
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If you are not racing or anything, a DH hardtail will let you enjoy the marvels or riding them XC trails and exploring the outdoors.

A DH bike gives you fun and a little workout, an XC bike gives you fun and performance.
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Try some of the norco shore hardtails out, I use my bigfoot for a bit of xc (I had my forks and tyres so low I couldnt finish 10 klms ) but dont let that discourage you coz im unfit and the thing flies on a dh track
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no such thing they are 2 completly diffrent bikes, dh is 7in plus travel xc in less than 5in, if you want to dh get a dh bike if you wan to xc get an xc bike. dont get a hardtail for dh its just stupid, and people any argure that it make you a better rider, sure, but the point on dh is to get to the bottom the fastest, hence the travel.
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what about them new fangled "all mountain" bikes?
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also called a trail bike 5" to 6" of travel
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forgive me, as I introduced myself in my first post, I am a newbie when it comes to mountain bikes. maybe I don't have the right term for the bikes I am looking at. would this be considered a freestyle bike?

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why not something in between?...Its a grind to push a FR or DH rig up the smallest climb, these bikes are built to use gravity and momentum...this i learned by pushing a Banshee Scream...I now ride a 5" travel XC/AM frame with a 25.5lb build, but probably the best bike to meet your needs is the Santa Cruz Blur 4X...a bike rated for DJ, XC, AM, and FR

This is my wife's 2004 version...it could the best bike for any terrain...even light DH
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well one of the reasons why I was asking mainly about the GT chucker 1.0 is because right now I can get it for $350 which is about half the sticker price.
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Yeah if your budget is so low... get a hardtail, you can do downhill just fine on a hardtail, its not like you are a professional tearing up sick courses...
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no such thing they are 2 completly diffrent bikes, dh is 7in plus travel xc in less than 5in, if you want to dh get a dh bike if you wan to xc get an xc bike. dont get a hardtail for dh its just stupid, and people any argure that it make you a better rider, sure, but the point on dh is to get to the bottom the fastest, hence the travel.
but that's why there's a hardtail race category
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but that's why there's a hardtail race category
do you see steve pete, cedric gracia, or wade boots racing downhill on hardtails?
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do you see steve pete, cedric gracia, or wade boots racing downhill on hardtails?

nope. but then again, they aren't racing in a *hardtail category* after all.....

plenty of folks have in the past, do so now, and will continue to race and ride DH on hardtails. you'd be surprised at how well some of them can do.

just because the pros do or don't do something doesn't mean the rest of us have to. or not.
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well if youlike to race ht's on a dh course have fun im not telling you its worng its pretty cool, il stick to 8" of travel it would be nice it my body worked 20 years from now.
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