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Old 02-17-03, 08:29 AM   #1
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can you freeride

Can you freeride on a hardtail? and north shore?
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Old 02-17-03, 10:27 AM   #2
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Yes, there are people that use hardtails as freeride bikes.
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Old 02-17-03, 12:15 PM   #4
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Can you freeride on a hardtail? and north shore?
Omg....clueless at age 17? Wow
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Go to www.nsmb.com and ask there...yes there is MUCH ht pride on the shore. In fact try and find some movies called NSX there is 6 of them now. Ht's work great on the shore. Its more about skill and balls than the bike
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thanks maelstrom....screw you klein
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Screw me? I cant believe you have never seen something like this and have never even HEARD about a freeride hardtail.

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Screw me? I cant believe you have never seen something like this and have never even HEARD about a freeride hardtail.

DAMN!...thats is an awesome bike...one of the few bikes I will call bombproof.
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not the BEST example of a freeride hardtail if you are talking about riding the shore. Its looks to be more of an urban bike in my opinion.
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not the BEST example of a freeride hardtail if you are talking about riding the shore. Its looks to be more of an urban bike in my opinion.
A little slack for the shore but would be fine on a number of trails...Really the .243 and minuteman are the best and built for it...
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Sure it's gonna be slack. It's got a friggin Monster T on it!

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Can I free ride on a hard tail? NO
Can I free ride on a FS? NO
Can I free ride, yeah one of the yellow bikes around town, sure... lol anythign else, uh uh, not a chance
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Anyone else find it funny that most pro downhillers have been hitting big stuff for years that the so called "Freeriders" have just now started hitting?




Just thought it curious.
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Anyone else find it funny that most pro downhillers have been hitting big stuff for years that the so called "Freeriders" have just now started hitting?




Just thought it curious.
No offence but your wrong...freeriders hit an entirely different type of terrain. Sometimes it looks similar but is usually much more technical and slow than fast paced. And really 'shore freeriding' the original freeriding is NOTHING like any dh I have ever seen on tv. It is sometimes slow going to a crawl VERY VERY technical. So maybe what some people call freeriding looks like dh but most of the people I know that freeride do nothing like dh at all...
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Sure it's gonna be slack. It's got a friggin Monster T on it!

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I am surprised it doesn't have a 24 inch rear wheel too
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Give me a break dude! If freeriding is considered dropping off cliffs and riding steep downhill terrain, sure.


The whole north-shore scene is just a PART of freeriding. There's more to it than just riding skinnies.
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Plus, if you really want to get technical there is no set "deffinition" for what freeriding is.
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Give me a break dude! If freeriding is considered dropping off cliffs and riding steep downhill terrain, sure.


The whole north-shore scene is just a PART of freeriding. There's more to it than just riding skinnies.
You right...but the fact is there is one pretty signifigant difference that I have seen. Dh is about the fastest cleanest line down. There are jumps and stuff but you want to stay close to the ground. Freeriding is generally about style and trying to progress your skills and abilities (let it be on drops, jumps, skinnies etc...). I just don't agree with your statement saying that freeriders are just starting to do what dhillers have always been doing. Downhilling is a very different beast from what I have seen of the world cup.

Your right there is no pure definition of freeriding but there are still some things that apply to freeriding imo.
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Not to mention one of the biggest differences...dhillers run a very groomed a flowy course. Very difficult but the lines are 'generally' set in stone. Freeriding the runs have many lines and many difficulties as well as 'usually' aren't as groomed or even groomed at all. Sometimes there is no flow to the course as well. Even on the shore where courses have been made are still left very rough in order to slow the riders down and make things far more technical than fast (except for air supply which is essentially many jumps in a row )
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Not to mention one of the biggest differences...dhillers run a very groomed a flowy course
You need to vist some of local dh races Mael. There is a set course but in no way are they groomed OR flowy.

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DH'ers have been hitting big stuff but usually not in a race. When they are out with friends and playing around they will hit the drops and huge gaps but when it comes to racing they will only hit the big stuff it is the fastest way down the hill.

I look at freeriding like this, unlike dh you have to pedal to the top unless you are in a freeride competition. Then as you descend, you look for the biggest and sickest line and hit it with as much style as you can. It may take you 4 min to get down or 40 min to get down the hill. To some freeriding is hopping some small logs or steeps and to others it is hucking off some 30' cliff somewhere.

A great freerider does not mean they are good at DH and vise versa. Getting down a hill as fast as possible, although it may require SOME freeride skills, is alot different. You want the smoothest line and try to keep your wheels on the ground.

I ride both and when I am totally dh'ing my lines are calculated and percise(sp?). I will enter a turn at a predetermined point and exit at a pre-determined point. If there is a gap or double, I will hit it at the exact point every time as to minimize the amount of time I am in the air.

When I am out freeriding, my lines my change half way through a turn or atop a bolder or cliff and nothing is planned or thought out except where I will land if I drop off some thing. If I do a doulbe or gap I try and get as much air as possible, try for a no-footer or some type of airial move.

All in all, freeriding has been around since MTB's. Only now they have created a name for what most of us have been doing since we were kids. Back then we were just "Crazy kids". Now we are "Freeriders". Oh boy!!! We have a title!!!
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By the way, to answer the original question, YES. You can use a ht for freeriding. I am actually building a ht/ss for just that.

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By the way, to answer the original question, YES. You can use a ht for freeriding. I am actually building a ht/ss for just that.

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Oh now this is new...what are you building?
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Frame is undecided as of yet. I am in the middle of a transaction with a manu. and it depends on what happens there.

As for parts
Z1 Freeride '03
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Oh yeah , cranks
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That will be a sweet ride...I thought you always went with Kona
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