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Old 08-12-06, 10:14 PM   #1
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Things to get for next season

Over the winter I plan to work and earn tones of cash.

I'm planning on buying a couple of new bikes.

I want:

A 6 inch travel hardtail (I really need recommendations here)

A Trials bike ( Thinking of the Adamant A1, but still open to others)

A jumper/street bike (Planning to use current Jack frame)



So... could anyone recommend a 6 inch travel hardtail? I havent seen many, and I'm not going to consider Norco, unless they supercharge the 2007 models. I personally don't like the norco shore hardtails. Price range is about 1300-1700 Cdn for this bike. Bike would be used for freeride/trail riding.


I was thinking of the Vagrant after seeing Mx_599's new one. But I'd prefer a whole bike to frame and build up.
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That would be cool if you could get a KOXX trials bike. Monsterboy
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Why not get a transition trail or park. It would work as both a 6in travel ht (I assume you are talking fork) and as the dj bike. Those 3 bikes are so similar in geometry it would be a serious waste of cash to not try to merge two of them into one.
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Nah! I want a Trail/freeride bike with around 6 inches of travel(probably around 16 inch frame too). I want this one for tearing down the hills. The Jack(13 inch frame ) is already going to be my jumper/street bike so I don't have to worry about it. I just have to buy a trials bike and trail bike.

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Those 3 bikes are so similar in geometry it would be a serious waste of cash to not try to merge two of them into one.
Have you slept enough lately? They're all completely different bikes, especially the trials rig. I don't really want a all round bike, because I've had that before and I don't like it. I want a bike that can be streamlined for one purpose. The only thing they share in common is that they're all hardtails.
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Norco rampage maybe for trail/FR? It rides fairly nice.

Get that Adamant A1 , that thing is NICE.
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Norco rampage maybe for trail/FR? It rides fairly nice.
I'd rather not. I've seen too many of norco's shore bikes crack. That, and I don't see why they neglect the rims so badly, I mean, Single track rims on a Shore hardtail? Common Norco.
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I'd rather not. I've seen too many of norco's shore bikes crack. That, and I don't see why they neglect the rims so badly, I mean, Single track rims on a Shore hardtail? Common Norco.
I have slept enough. The trials bike is the only exception. A dj bike and a 6in ht can use the same frame with no modification. I was simply saying get the trials (obviously specific) and a well built dj bike with suitable geometry for jumping (short) and trails (long)...the transition trail or park (especially if you are short at 6' and less) will be fine for both with the right length seat post.

As for this statement. Single tracks are fine. As a 280 pound rider I abused one for an entire season on my bighit. Ya there were sidewall dents but big freaking deal, the rim lasted 1 whole season of whistler and the shore. It will likely last another season since I am selling it to a buddy of mine. Now the deore hub is was attached to was puke.
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ya just getta pike or something with adjustable travel and your set. The Evil Imperial and Sinister DNA are very nice IMO.
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There is a sweet Banshee freeride hardtail with headtube gussets on Ebay right now for $225.00

I would get it, but I just got a new bike last week.

Check it out. Oh, and Jason. If you want advice, don't complain when you get it. You sound agitated whenever someone offers you something you don't like, and that's just poor manners.[/$0.02]
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Maelstrom: My point was, Norco's wheels are specifically made. It wouldn't cost much more to just put something stronger like the S-type's or MTX on instead of Singletracks. I've seen 3 singletracks broken this season alone, and countless on the internet. You had yours on a bighit, it has rear suspension. It's not as taxing on wheels as hardtails are. And I also assume the singletrack was 24", which would be stronger, would it not?
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Maelstrom: My point was, Norco's wheels are specifically made. It wouldn't cost much more to just put something stronger like the S-type's or MTX on instead of Singletracks. I've seen 3 singletracks broken this season alone, and countless on the internet. You had yours on a bighit, it has rear suspension. It's not as taxing on wheels as hardtails are. And I also assume the singletrack was 24", which would be stronger, would it not?
And 36 hole so a little extra strength there too. They are fine rims but people do tend to hit the wall with them. Like ryno lites. Great wheel to a point.

I actually blew my s-type. I haven't had much luck with any wheels but mavics. Especially on the rear. Dually or hardtail.
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I think I'll just let you two battle this out

And you can't get much stronger than a Banshee Morphine for ht fr
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Why not use a freeride hardtail with an adjustable travel fork, you can use around 80-100 for street/dj and the full travel for freeride, it would not be the best solution performance wise but you would save a lot of money. I don't know of many long travel hardtails aside from Norco though... at least none is popping into my head right now.

As for trials bike, I'm not knowleadgable on the subject (I love trials and do know some specific stuff but as far as bikes go, I don't know whats the best) but I know I'm looking at Koxx when the time comes for me to buy a trials bike.
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I think I'll just let you two battle this out

And you can't get much stronger than a Banshee Morphine for ht fr
And it would be excellent for trails AND good for djing. Personally the geometry isn't quite right for a good combo bike, its close to my old kona roastish style. More fr trail than dj. If I was shorter the trail or park would be an AMAZING all round ht.
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And it would be excellent for trails AND good for djing. Personally the geometry isn't quite right for a good combo bike, its close to my old kona roastish style. More fr trail than dj. If I was shorter the trail or park would be an AMAZING all round ht.
Just saying, I tried out my friends morphine with 24''s and 150mm up front, and it felt like it was a full blown dj bike as well as a great fr bike. But I guess he's locked onto 3 diffrent bikes.
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Yeah you guys, I'm not combining two. I already said this. I already have a street/jumper. It's a pretty simple concept.

I'm somewhat considering the Devinci Hucker and Specialized Rockhopper All mountain right now. Both come with 130, but I'd probably get a 150 mm travel fork, or have the stock one sent to Marzocchi and upped to 150. Depends on how I like the feel as well.

Maybe a full suspension bike?
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Maybe a full suspension bike?
Now you're talking.
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i'm trying to get a vagrant as a freeride hardtail.

i figure after that i'd try to get a bottlerocket as an all mountain fully.

i still have my bruiser which i'll use for all around use (urban, commute, dj, whatever)

and i just won a bmx bike on sunday in an xbox table tennis tournament.

but yeah, i'm reallllly liking the vagrant.
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OoOo This looks nice:
http://www.bansheebikes.com/pages/trail.htm
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