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Old 08-19-06, 07:42 PM   #1
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Iron Horse bike beginner

I'm new to the bike thing and need help from you guys for new bike;

I will ride about 20miles a week with quite a lot of up and down hills (Not sure if I need fully suspension)
budget will under $800. (Not want to spend a lot at the first bike so)
I'm 6'1" 180lbs. I've try my friend's full suspension bike, but the spring is way too soft.

Gone to local shop and they have Iron horse bike. I'm thinking about between Iron Horse Maverick and Iron Horse Yakuza Aniki 24 Mountain Bike. Can you guys give me some thought between them or any other bike should I take a look? Thanks

http://www.ironhorsebikes.com/bikes/index.asp?ID=21
http://www.ironhorsebikes.com/bikes/index.asp?ID=28
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You don't really need a bike with rear suspension. And cheap rear suspension bikes really suck.

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Hardtail = great for hills unless you have lockout for rear suspension.
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This might just be me, but the only good Iron Horse bikes are the 7point and Sunday series bikes. If you are going to go for $800, then you are better off going for a hardtail.
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Do you have a specific reason why you think only those 2 series are good? I ask this because I just purchased an Iron Horse Warrior expert for $550 and for that price I seriously could not find anything even near equal to it. Avid disc brakes, marzocchi fork, fsa gamma crank, mega exo bracket, zero stack headset, sram x.7 rd, sram w-gen fd, wtb rims, wtb weirwolf race tires, wtb pure v saddle, etc...For $550!? I guess I just fail to see what is not good about my bike!
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for $800 i'd probly get a giant alias
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Do you have a specific reason why you think only those 2 series are good? I ask this because I just purchased an Iron Horse Warrior expert for $550 and for that price I seriously could not find anything even near equal to it. Avid disc brakes, marzocchi fork, fsa gamma crank, mega exo bracket, zero stack headset, sram x.7 rd, sram w-gen fd, wtb rims, wtb weirwolf race tires, wtb pure v saddle, etc...For $550!? I guess I just fail to see what is not good about my bike!
excellent find!!! not the usual under $800 fs for sure!!!
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Thanks for everyone input!!
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Do you have a specific reason why you think only those 2 series are good? I ask this because I just purchased an Iron Horse Warrior expert for $550 and for that price I seriously could not find anything even near equal to it. Avid disc brakes, marzocchi fork, fsa gamma crank, mega exo bracket, zero stack headset, sram x.7 rd, sram w-gen fd, wtb rims, wtb weirwolf race tires, wtb pure v saddle, etc...For $550!? I guess I just fail to see what is not good about my bike!
Because Iron Horse are not yet recognised as a "cool" brand by the masses.

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How about a Specialized Rockhopper Comp Disc? http://kozy.com/itemdetails.cfm?ID=5533

Frame A1 Premium Aluminum, disc only, double butted TT and
Fork RockShox Tora 318 SL, 100mm-travel
Headset 1 1/8" threadless
Rims/Wheels Specialized/Alex RHD 26, double wall disc w/ eyelets
Hubs Specialized Hi Lo disc
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Tires Specialized Fast Trak, 26x2.0", Kevlar bead, 60 TPI
Crankset Shimano FCM-442-8, Octalink Spline, 9-speed,
Chainwheel 44A/32S/22S
Bottom Bracket Shimano ES-25, Octalink Spline, cartridge bearing,
Chain Shimano HG-73, 1/2" x 3/32" w/ missing link
Front Derailleur Shimano Deore M-530
Rear Derailleur Shimano Deore M-511
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Accessories & Extras Chain stay protector, reflectors, clear coat, owners manual
$799.99
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I will look at that Specialized bike tomorrow. Thanks!!

The roads and trail I'm going ride. There were up hill and some rough down hill roads. I will prefer a full suspension bike. But I understand for my budget, I can't get any real functional full suspension bike. I've look around, other than that Iron Horse Yakuza Aniki 24, there were not much full suspension choice. Is that Iron Horse good for a beginner? or there was any other choice within my budget? Thanks!!
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Typically speaking, any full suspension bike worth investing in won't start until about $1500. A lot of people ride hardtails on some of the most demanding trails. Unless you're riding on terrain that requires a full face helmet, you won't need a full suspension bike. Plus, most lower budget full suspension bikes tend to bob a lot when you pedal and you won't be able to ride very long or climb hills very well. Most don't know until they've tried it so my suggestion is to borrow someone's bike and try it.

BTW, you'll want a 9 speed bike. Having only 7 or 8 gears in the back really does make climbing that much harder. But like I said, you won't know until you've tried it.
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Typically speaking, any full suspension bike worth investing in won't start until about $1500. A lot of people ride hardtails on some of the most demanding trails. Unless you're riding on terrain that requires a full face helmet, you won't need a full suspension bike. Plus, most lower budget full suspension bikes tend to bob a lot when you pedal and you won't be able to ride very long or climb hills very well. Most don't know until they've tried it so my suggestion is to borrow someone's bike and try it.

BTW, you'll want a 9 speed bike. Having only 7 or 8 gears in the back really does make climbing that much harder. But like I said, you won't know until you've tried it.
This is very valid advice. I'm just getting into MTB with a very cheap full suspension bike. Having only ridden a road bike I, at first, really liked the full suspension. First because it looks damn cool, but also I found I could suddenly do a lot of things off road that I never imagined. But now that I'm learning more (and my wheels have more mileage) I can see the deficiencies of a cheap full suspension, primarily the bobbing and how the bike squats when I go up steep hills and kills my momentum. Having a hardtail at those points would improve things. The suspension comes in handy over very rough terrain and undulating trails.

I've also been hitting some bike stores and as stated above, I see almost nothing decent with a full suspension under $1500 (Cdn). In fact any full suspension bike with discs with a known brand name (Scott, Norco, Specialized, Canondale, Kona, Santa Cruz, DeVinci, etc.) all start over $2000 and get better around $3000. I did see a Scott with an adjustable rear shock that can be locked, but that cost around $2500.
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This might just be me, but the only good Iron Horse bikes are the 7point and Sunday series bikes. If you are going to go for $800, then you are better off going for a hardtail.
it's probably just you. iron horse makes some pretty good bikes, especially their dw-link bikes. their new warrior line up is pretty decent as well. their yakuza line up is their budget line up, so if you think it sucks, that's why. they're made for guys on a budget or for guys just getting into the sport who don't want to spend a lot of cash on a sport they might end up not wanting to stay in. they're decent bikes for beginners, which is what the OP was asking about.

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Typically speaking, any full suspension bike worth investing in won't start until about $1500. A lot of people ride hardtails on some of the most demanding trails. Unless you're riding on terrain that requires a full face helmet, you won't need a full suspension bike. Plus, most lower budget full suspension bikes tend to bob a lot when you pedal and you won't be able to ride very long or climb hills very well. Most don't know until they've tried it so my suggestion is to borrow someone's bike and try it.
while i generally agree with the advice given here, you can find full suspension bikes for under $1500 that are worth investing in--you just have to look around for the deals. norco bikes are generally cheaper than other brands, as are some iron horses (at least they used to be before they brought out their dw-link bikes). i got my 2003 norco fluid 3 near the end of the 2003 season for $1050 CAD, msrp is around $1600 CAD.

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I'm new to the bike thing and need help from you guys for new bike;

I will ride about 20miles a week with quite a lot of up and down hills (Not sure if I need fully suspension)
budget will under $800. (Not want to spend a lot at the first bike so)
I'm 6'1" 180lbs. I've try my friend's full suspension bike, but the spring is way too soft.

Gone to local shop and they have Iron horse bike. I'm thinking about between Iron Horse Maverick and Iron Horse Yakuza Aniki 24 Mountain Bike. Can you guys give me some thought between them or any other bike should I take a look? Thanks
being tha the aniki is a 24" wheeled full suspension bike, i'd figure it's geared more towards kids than adults. if it's still within your price range, id look into the ojiki if you're dead set on a full suspension iron horse. like the others, i'd recommend a hardtail just because for the same price as the fully, you'd generally be getting better parts and a better package altogether. you'd also be getting a bike that will help you learn to be a better rider. again, if you're looking at iron horses, the yakuza chimpira and bakuto would be good to check out.

what other brands does your local bike shop carry?


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Thanks for all suggests here. I've check out couple bike shops today and learn more after talking with them. Most of them said "You get what you paid for". Right now I'm thinking about Specialized FSR XC (HYD), price is about $1500CAD. It can lock up the front and rear suspension for my up hill ride and release as full suspension for my rough down hill ride. For that price, is that a good deal? Any better choice in that price range? TIA

http://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCBkModel.jsp?spid=13543

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being tha the aniki is a 24" wheeled full suspension bike, i'd figure it's geared more towards kids than adults. if it's still within your price range, id look into the ojiki if you're dead set on a full suspension iron horse. like the others, i'd recommend a hardtail just because for the same price as the fully, you'd generally be getting better parts and a better package altogether. you'd also be getting a bike that will help you learn to be a better rider. again, if you're looking at iron horses, the yakuza chimpira and bakuto would be good to check out.

what other brands does your local bike shop carry?


Couldnt he jjust change the wheels to 26" ? or would the forks be designed for 24"?
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Couldnt he jjust change the wheels to 26" ? or would the forks be designed for 24"?
my apologies. i just checked the full specs again and see that they do offer the aniki with 26" with the larger frame sizes (15", 17", 19").

the frame that comes with the 24s is a 14"

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my apologies. i just checked the full specs again and see that they do offer the aniki with 26" with the larger frame sizes (15", 17", 19").

the frame that comes with the 24s is a 14"
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if i bought a 24" rim bike would it run 26" or would frame be diffrent or the forks?
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if i bought a 24" rim bike would it run 26" or would frame be diffrent or the forks?
best bet would be to ask the dealer or the manufacturer directly about the 14" frame and the fork that comes with it; if they're both 24" specific. but, since the bike is offerred with 26" wheels, why would you buy the one with 24"?

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Do you have a specific reason why you think only those 2 series are good? I ask this because I just purchased an Iron Horse Warrior expert for $550 and for that price I seriously could not find anything even near equal to it. Avid disc brakes, marzocchi fork, fsa gamma crank, mega exo bracket, zero stack headset, sram x.7 rd, sram w-gen fd, wtb rims, wtb weirwolf race tires, wtb pure v saddle, etc...For $550!? I guess I just fail to see what is not good about my bike!
JUst couldn't pass this up...just bought the Warrior Expert on sale at $550., then additional 20% off at Performance sale...which puts me under $440. AND get 45 bonus dollars from them! I was ready to buy it at the $550. and then got a member coupon. I can't believe the specs on this bike for the price. As a hard core user of v brakes...gotta say these Avid BB discs will STOP. TOmorrow is trail riding day and I am so ready. I'll snap a few pics on the trail and post them.
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