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    Should I bring the tent?

    Hey guys,

    I'm leaving next week for a 2-week solo MTB trip into the Canyonlands. I'm hauling a BOB Ibex trailer into The Maze district and also along the White Rim Trail.

    Question: My tent weighs 8 lbs. and I'm having to haul in 50 lbs. of water which is going to push the 70 lb. limit of my trailer when you add the other stuff I need to bring. I'm thinking of ditching the tent and sleeping under the stars for the duration. I figure if a storm passes over I'll hunker under a tarp and be miserable for the duration.

    What do you think? Is a tent necessary in the Canyonlands?

    Thanks!

    Chuck

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    The thing is a tarp (setup like this) will only keep water off your head. Water will still be all over the ground, where all your gear might be. Haven't ever been to the Canyonlands though, hope you have a great trip!
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    but for safety reasons, i think it would be best to bring one. keep those damn bugs off... especially the bloodsucking ones!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwhunt23
    The thing is a tarp (setup like this) will only keep water off your head. Water will still be all over the ground, where all your gear might be. Haven't ever been to the Canyonlands though, hope you have a great trip!

    Good point. Besides the chance of getting a little soaked I'm wondering how bad the bugs are at night. I've heard gnats and possibly skeeters can be a pain? Another positive for the tent is that it ensures no critters come crawling in looking for a snuggle.

    It's a tough call. I love sleeping under the stars and if I take the tent it will push my total weight to about 80 lbs. which is about 10 lbs. over the load limit of the BOB trailer.

    Water is heavy! One thing I plan to do today is call the rangers and find out if the water source below The Maze overlook is 100% reliable. If so I can reduce my water load by about half thus making the tent option much more doable.

    I appreciate any input you guys have to offer.

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    i know what you need: dehydrated water. i'll sell you a box for 50 dollars.

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    Get yourself a bivy sack or light weight 1-person tent if you think you'll have a use for it down the road. No reason to lug that heavy tent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket Dawg
    Hey guys,


    Question: My tent weighs 8 lbs. and I'm having to haul in 50 lbs. of water ...
    What do you think? Is a tent necessary in the Canyonlands?

    Thanks!

    Chuck
    I would bring the tent...it does rain and there are bugs and critters to deal with...also, it you think about it, you will only be hauling 50# of water for the first day or so. At 8.3 #/gal, you will lighten your load quite a bit as you drink the water, which you will do quite quickly. I did a 5 day trip in Canyonlands National Park (aka White Rim) last fall and it was awesome. Have a good safe trip...

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    Yeah, a bivvy sack might be what you need.

    Just checked over at MEC.ca and saw this one weighs 2.4lbs.



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    Quote Originally Posted by santiago
    Yeah, a bivvy sack might be what you need.

    As soon as I saw the posts from you and Curtis the light bulb went off. I do own a bivy sack and there's no reason I can't use that if need be...

    The load does lessen quickly with the water being consumed at a gallon a day...

    You guys are a big help!

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    what is the canyonlands???

    Have fun and be careful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RIC0
    what is the canyonlands???

    Have fun and be careful.

    The Canyonlands National Park is in southeastern Utah near Moab.

    I'll be careful... it's a long solo journey but I look forward to the challenges ahead. 8 more days and I'm on my way!

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    DO you take a phone with you incase you get hurt?? what kind of trailer are you pulling??

    what type of food do you take?? Sorry but I find your adventure very interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RIC0
    DO you take a phone with you incase you get hurt?? what kind of trailer are you pulling??

    what type of food do you take?? Sorry but I find your adventure very interesting.

    Good questions! Nope no phone. I'm on my own and every move I make is with that in mind. I've been solo backpacking for many years but this will be the first time on a bike. I have ways to signal distress and will leave a plan with a loved one and with the ranger station.

    The trailer is a BOB Ibex. It's a single-wheel with suspension. It hauls 70 lbs. and works great. The bike is a Specialized hard-tail Stumpy.

    For food it's oatmeal in the morning, trail mix during the day and Mountain House dehydrated food for dinner. Water is heated with a mountaineering-type stove. It's all about saving weight and keeping it simple.

    Thanks!

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    can you haul me along too? plzzzzzzzzz?

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    I would bring a tent, how else are you going to sleep if it rains, just get a really small one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WannaGetGood
    I would bring a tent, how else are you going to sleep if it rains, just get a really small one.

    I looked at the bivy sack I have and it's a nice one. It looks just like the one in the earlier post. If it rains I can put the sleeping bag inside of the bivy sack and keep dry. I agree with you on the importance of getting out of the rain!

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiiiim
    can you haul me along too? plzzzzzzzzz?

    I'll be at the trailhead waiting!

    Chuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket Dawg
    I looked at the bivy sack I have and it's a nice one. It looks just like the one in the earlier post. If it rains I can put the sleeping bag inside of the bivy sack and keep dry. I agree with you on the importance of getting out of the rain!

    Thanks.

    Chuck
    Yeah, that would be my only concern, you can even just bring a tarp and some rope and hang it from the trees above to keep dry.

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