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    I've lost interest in moving to a full suspension.

    I think I'm happy where I am with hardtails, I like the fast response and easy hill climbs, less to worry about also in my opinion.

    Don't get me wrong the 07 Stumpjumper FSR Expert, AMAZING bike, I'm just not ready and who knows when I will be to make the dive into a full suspension.


    Now I find myself looking at a Kona Kula. And the new Stumpjumper HT's for 07 are sexy sexy.

    Also not to totally rule out full suspension, I'm also thinking about the Specialized Epic.
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    I know what you mean. I was up for buying a full susser about a year ago, having only ever ridden one on pavement. When I finally got to try one out on some trails, I almost found it too easy, ie it let me ride way beyond my abilities. I'd still like one, but I'd like to improve my skills to a point where I feel I deserve it first.

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    Full suspension isn't for everyone. If you are happy with a hardtail then stick with it. There are a lot of people that never feel the need to purchase a dually. Personally I enjoy both for different reasons. I love a hardtail for the challenge and for the smoother climbs. I prefer a quality full suspension for everything else, including most climbs that aren't fire roads. That is just me though.
    I may be fat but I'm slow enough to make up for it.

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    I'd like one, but its alot of money for a good one. Not sure i want to spend it.

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    I got my Giant ATX 1200 in good condition for 500 bucks cash, so great FS bikes aren't always expensive, you just have to look for deals. Plus, its not like FS bikes are really all that much harder to climb with. My giant weighs 24 pounds and is stiff enough to where it doesn't bob up and down on hills. Better yet, more modern FS bikes are sometimes capable of having the shocks locked in place so it may as well be a hardtail.

    Yup, I like full suspension.
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    What all have you done to get the Giant ATX 1200 down to 24 pounds? That has to be one of the lightest ATX 1200's anywhere.
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    I may be fat but I'm slow enough to make up for it.

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    Oo, LowCel is sure interested in knowing how Michigander made his Giant down to 24 pounds. I wonder whats the lightest MTB in the world????

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    I'm sure this one is pretty close weighing in at 11.88 pounds (5,388 grams). For other light bikes check out Light Bikes.



    As for the Giant mentioned above I'm just amazed that someone was able to take a frame that must weigh at least seven pounds and was able to build that light of a bike out of it.
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    I may be fat but I'm slow enough to make up for it.

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    Senior Member Michigander's Avatar
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    The ATX 1100 weighed like 32, but the 1200 was the rare one which they didn't spare any expenses on. It was sold factory direct to the guy I bought it from because he used to professionaly race. Sadly right now it weighs less than 10 pounds because I gutted it to outfit my old schwinn. The bushings are trashed and I need to mold some new ones. The shocks are also totaled. When I get the money, it will get new shocks and a complete new XTR parts set. For now though, the simple things like paying for school and eating have priorities over bike crap.

    If you were wondering what it had on it when I got it, the drive train was all XTR except for the crank which was a race face. It broke and I replaced it with an XT crank. The wheels were Mavic 221's. Fork was a Manitou Xvert and the rear shock was a Rock Shox Coupe Deluxe.
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    weight weenies
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    Quote Originally Posted by trevor
    weight weenies

    Who??? Me????? Never!!!!!!!!!
    I may be fat but I'm slow enough to make up for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LowCel
    I'm sure this one is pretty close weighing in at 11.88 pounds (5,388 grams). For other light bikes check out Light Bikes.


    As for the Giant mentioned above I'm just amazed that someone was able to take a frame that must weigh at least seven pounds and was able to build that light of a bike out of it.

    I was looking at the Scott Scale HT's, Quite impressive looking for the money, is the Scale 30 seriously a carbon frame bike for $2700?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tweek
    I was looking at the Scott Scale HT's, Quite impressive looking for the money, is the Scale 30 seriously a carbon frame bike for $2700?
    I really don't know the price, never really researched them. However, don't expect it to be anywhere near as light as the one I posted above. That would cost a whole lot more than $2,700. On top of that the one pictured isn't going to be all that durable in real world riding situations that most of us find ourselves in.
    I may be fat but I'm slow enough to make up for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LowCel
    I really don't know the price, never really researched them. However, don't expect it to be anywhere near as light as the one I posted above. That would cost a whole lot more than $2,700. On top of that the one pictured isn't going to be all that durable in real world riding situations that most of us find ourselves in.

    Yeah of course, Scale 30 is around 23lbs.

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    Heres a pic of me with my Giant-

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    What's with the blacking out of your face? Are you hiding your identity?
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    Yup, always.
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    Too many ex-girlfriends looking for you?
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    Reason for me hiding my ID is that there are too many creeps and scam artists out there for me to trust the general online community with knowing who I am.
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    I used to worry about that, then I realized that my name and pictures are posted 20 times a year when race results and race pictures are posted on-line. My best line of defense is making sure I spend all of my money before any would be criminals get a chance.
    I may be fat but I'm slow enough to make up for it.

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    I've got more debt than credit. Problem solved!
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    Senior Member Michigander's Avatar
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    Not being the sort who will ever race, and having a *** collection that almost any theif would be envious of, I think I'll keep my ID a secret.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LowCel
    I'm sure this one is pretty close weighing in at 11.88 pounds (5,388 grams). For other light bikes check out Light Bikes.



    As for the Giant mentioned above I'm just amazed that someone was able to take a frame that must weigh at least seven pounds and was able to build that light of a bike out of it.
    This is very expensive. $5000 I think.

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    And if you think about it being harder to climb hills, isn't that a better work out? Unless if you are not going to for, then never mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WannaGetGood
    This is very expensive. $5000 I think.
    I would guess more along the lines of $8,000 or so. There is a lot of custom work done to that bike that you don't see.
    I may be fat but I'm slow enough to make up for it.

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