First i wanna say thanks to you all for putting up with my constant hayes threads asking every question imaginable. You all helped me more than i probably deserve considering how much space i've taken up here. But i assure you that i'm done for a while unless something goes terribly wrong.
So after all that i figure it's only right that i top it all off with a review that is in part for gonesh9's benefit, since he's trying to decide between mechs and hydros.
I just got back from the steepest fireroad i know. It's only 2.5 miles, but it's a killer, and coming back down will quickly tell you how good your brakes are. These Hayes are........well, awesome! I bought them because my hands were in pain when going down steep FR's because i had to grip the V's so hard. What i found was that a good part of that pain was not from the brakes, but from my body weight on the bars while slowing down fast. But the brakes took a lot of that away, and afforded me great control.
I found within minutes that i will never use any other brakes. The control is awesome. Being able to stop VERY quickly with next to no effort and w/o locking up was heaven. The only bad thing about them for me is that i tend to go FASSSSSSSTTTTTTTTT!!! They inspire such confidence ! I am new to this, so i can't compare them to anything but the V's i had. But i will say that i can't imagine them being any better. FUN is the key word.
As for squeal problems and drag that you hear about so often.........listen to and believe the guys that keep saying that properly set up, they will work perfect ! When i first set them up i had incredible loud howling and drag. But if you're fairly intelligent and mechanically inclined you will find these things are nothing more than a product of improper setup. I didn't hear a single bit of noise or drag on the way down today. Heres what i did to totally eliminate both of these problems....
DRAG: the credit card thing didn't work for me. I simply eyeballed the clearance of the disc and pads and moved the caliper around to where it looked like equal clearance on both sides, then locked it down. After a couple trys not a bit of drag. However, make sure you pushed in the pistons first as per hayes' instructions. Very easy.....just took me a while to figure it out.
NOISE: #400 sandpaper.....sand the pads, maybe 30-50 strokes, then thuroughly clean them with rubbing alcohol. Then clean the rotor with alcohol.
Do those 2 things and you may find they'll work perfect as they did for me. As for break in.....they say they get a lot better once they seat in after a few rides. My thoought about that is...HOLY @#$%.......they actually get better?!!
To sum up...........i don't care how good they say avids are, or even hopes. It just don't get better than this !!!! gonesh9, i suggest you get those $99 Hayes at jensonusa. Man oh man, am i glad i did !!!