I bought a frame off ebay today. first ebay purchase ever. thanks to everyone who gave me advise earlier when i asked. it's a pretty frame. 05 black stumpy to replace my 04 hardrock. boo ya! it even came with some extras. if i like it enough i may even post a picture. thanks again for everyones help. i just hope ebay does not become my new bad habbit.... anyone wana give me a job?