OK, I'm a roadie, but my wife has determined that we need mountain bikes (She completed her first century today, so that may have saved me for the moment as she basks in her roadie glory). I don't think we'll convert , but there are times when they'd be better for our needs. These two bikes look like about what we need. How about opinions on these bikes or others in the 15-2500.00 price range. We'll be mostly riding trails and timber roads. No downhill, but plenty of opportunity here for some technical stuff if we want it.