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Old 10-02-06, 12:05 PM   #1
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Cassette removal tool

http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/146...-Guide-Pin.htm

The link above goes to a cassette removal tool. Will this work for my 8 speed cassette. It states 9 speed and pretty much any cassette and any hub. I"m new to buying bike tools and wonder if this is the only and last cassette tool I'll ever need????? Thanks for any input you can give.
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I'd look for a better one than that, looks really cheap. I prefer the Park version or any one with a hole through the entire tool. This allows you to put the QR skewer back through the hub and holds the tool tight while removing or installing. Without that, they tend to pop out easily during removal. Yeah, it will work with Sram or Shimano 8 or 9 speed.
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That is pretty much the same tool I use at my house, mine is Nashbar though. I have been using it for about four years now with no problems. Don't forget to get the chain whip as well, you need it to keep the cassette from moving when you are removing it.

Now, if you really want this to be the last one you will ever need spend the $3 extra and get the Park.
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Yeah I think I"m gonna brake down and get the Park, since they are the tool gurus.

Is there anyway to use an oldchain and rig it up some way to hold the cassette from turning instead of buying that whip tool??
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I'm sure you could. However the chain whip is so cheap why bother?

You could probably do something with a piece of steel, old chain and a couple of nails or something like that.
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I"m a cheap bastard...LOL

Thanks for the info LowCel much appreciated.
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Yeah, that'll work w/ all casettes with the exception of Campy. The chain whip is pretty much necessary, unless you are feeling real cool and feel like slpoogin on the J.A. Stein HyperHandle!!
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I"ll probably be making one and will post pics. Shouldn't take but 30 minutes to whip one up with some crap layin around.
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If you're cheap...don't buy the Park cassette tool. You don't need it. I've had me "el-cheapo" cassette tool for 8 years now. It works like a new one to this day.
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Don't listen to all the Park Nazis out there. These Sette tools (probably produced by Lifu) have some pretty cool tricks up their sleeves. I bought a Lifu kit a couple years ago because it was cheap. I bought it for a few pieces and shunned everything else preferring the "quality" Park tools that I had bought.

For example, I chose to keep using the cassette tool and the $29 Wrech/Chain whip combo (which is paradoxical considering you need both tools to do the job). In any case, that thing slipped like hell. No one had told me of the skewer trick.

However, when I finally stripped the hell out of the Park tool, I decided to give the Lifu a try. The thing was easy smeezy like a snap because it has a socket that allow you to connect it to a swivel headed leverage wrench. No skewer threading is required.

The chain tool. I shunned that for quite a long time. Then I tried it one day when my Park mini-chain brute was unavailable. Low and behold it had a hollow nut at the end of it that allowed you to bite the chain and hold it in place. Not only that but it provided a flush backplate that prevented the far side plate from getting stuck with the pin and bending backwards. Verdict the Lifu tool ROCKED (I wish they made a mini version).

The big exception is the spoke wrench. That thing sucks!!!! There are three sided spoke wrenches and those are inferior to 4 sided ones. But those "roundy" spoke wrenches really blow as it is difficult to find the right hole and is amplified by the fact that wire gauge numbers go BACKWARD.

My advice ... do not buy the single cassette tool. Buy one of their larger kits and get it over with. You'll pay a set amount for shipping regardless of what they send you. So you might as well spend the extra dough now, you'll save in shipping costs in the long run.


$39.98

While you're at it, buy a spoke wrench, a chain-nut wrench, and some REAL cone wrenches (real cone wrenches are only one sided). But for the price of the kit you do get your money's worth in a handful of quality bike tools (cassette, bottom bracket, chain whip, steel levers, nylon levers, chain tool, crank puller, ball headed hex set, pin spanner, pedal wrench, crank bolt wrench).


Don't get me wrong. Park Tools is good stuff and in some categories they're the only option. But they need to upgrade their tool design. If you want good designs (overall) combined with cheap prices, buy Lifu or some marketed brand (Sette, Spin Doctor, etc...). If you want the best designs combined with the best quality, buy Pedro's. If you want tools from a company resting on it's laurels, buy Park.

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Is there anyway to use an oldchain and rig it up some way to hold the cassette from turning instead of buying that whip tool??
yep, make yourself one of these ... takes about 20 mins, and costs 5/8 of stuff all, takes up no room in tool kit, and works really well ... brilliant to take when touring

... the webpage with details on how to make and use ...


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here are some pics of it in use ...
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Cool Tool

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here are some pics of it in use ...
+5

VERY COOL!!!

I'm not sure I'd want this for a home kit. It requires an extra mount and removal cycle. But if I ever go touring that's definitely the tool to have. And of course, if you're out in back country, this would be good as well.

BTW, this tool also overcomes the big headache of splined disc rotors. Splines are nice and easy to remove when comapred to 6 bolt. But the tools are so big because of the leverage required. This tool would allow you to remove a mangled rotor (say on the rear wheel) and allow replacement or simply limping home without. The tire and spokes become the leverage bar. Awesome idea!!!!

Since Topeak is into clever little tools like that, I expect to see one from them next year ;-)

Again VERY COOL!!!!
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willsmith_nwi: I bought basically an identical toolkit except under a different brand's name and cannot figure out what the hell the tool below the adjustable spanner is. Any ideas?

Thanks!
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DC - it looks like an adjustable pin spanner. Used for removing certain crank bolt caps, adjusting certain bottom brackets, and disassembling certain hubs.
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willsmith_nwi: I bought basically an identical toolkit except under a different brand's name and cannot figure out what the hell the tool below the adjustable spanner is. Any ideas?
I don't have this toolkit. I have one sold under the Lifu name. Many of my parts are exactly the same, but some are a little different. Here are my guesses.



My kit looks like this, and you can still get it at Pricepoint, http://pricepoint.com/detail/11912-3...ontool-Kit.htm.

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FYI: My Park chain tool broke the very FIRST time I used it....

I will NEVER fall for their advertising again. I used a chain tool that
I bought at Kmart for 4 yrs. before buying the Park POS...

Sorry, but that the God's honest truth...
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DC - it looks like an adjustable pin spanner. Used for removing certain crank bolt caps, adjusting certain bottom brackets, and disassembling certain hubs.
I see, thanks gastro!
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I see, thanks gastro!
No prob - as I reread this, I hope I was identifying the proper tool - when you wrote "adjustable spanner," I took you to mean the crescent wrench.
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is the cassette lock same as center lock?
can you remove both with the same tool?
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I own the kit will posted above.

So far the tools ive used have done the job without a complaint.
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Center lock splines.

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is the cassette lock same as center lock?
can you remove both with the same tool?
Yes, the splines for a cassette lockring and center lock rotor ring are exactly the same. But I suspect it's lefty-tighty (using the left hand rule). Also you don't need a chain whip to work remove a centerlock rotor.

Hey, here is a question for you center-lock users though. Is a cassette lock-ring interchangeable with a centerlock lock-ring????
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I own the kit will posted above.

So far the tools ive used have done the job without a complaint.
That's good to hear, I hate it when my tools start pissing and moaning.
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No prob - as I reread this, I hope I was identifying the proper tool - when you wrote "adjustable spanner," I took you to mean the crescent wrench.
Yeah, I did mean the crescent wrench, not too familiar with tool terms.
Here's a pic of which one I mean.

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Yeah, I did mean the crescent wrench, not too familiar with tool terms.
Here's a pic of which one I mean.

Your question is so ironic because the tool you circled is a pin spanner. The application of a crescent wrech to pins would be an unfortunate event. And for recessed pin receptacles, it would be kinda funny ;-)
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