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Old 03-30-03, 11:06 AM   #1
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Ride Report and Questions.

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I have just returned from a very nice ride up in Castle Coch, Cardiff, UK. It was a killing climb followed by an ultra fast fire road downhill ( i couldnt pedal anymore on the 44t 11t gear...i dont know how many km/h that is)....the discs where smoking afterwards and they are still bedding in.... anyway....

My questions are....i am 200lbs....i have complaints about my fork...manitou axel elite...medium spring....i got 50 to 60% shag...totally unacceptable... will the stiffer spring rectify the problem or should i get a black or minute fork?

My tires are veeeeery slow....roll-x 2.0 ....i am thinking about micheling comp s light or panaracer trailblaster pro 2.1 .

Any suggestions and advice is most welcome...i am in a hurry to change those....either getting a stiffer fork spring or wait and raise money to get another fork....but the tires suck....

thanks in advance for the helpfull answers...
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Old 03-30-03, 11:11 AM   #2
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Don't get the Trailblasters.. they suck... I have a pair. Unpredictable. They work good in really loose/muddy stuff but not well enough to justify their performance elsewhere. I say go for the Comp S tires... those are good.



I also say get a new fork. Replacing the internals probably isn't worth it.
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Jim thanks...are the comp-s light reliable? i have read some reviews on mtbr that they get torn apart really fast.
Is the black fork a good option?
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First off...you are 200pnds riding a medium spring. Try a heavier spring first...

And what the heck is shag? (besides obvious sexual reference)
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should i say sag???? if i was wrong excuse me.... i meant the amount of travel that gets lost when i just sit on the bike...it should be around 10% of total travel whereas on my fork is 60%. So maelstrom you think i should stick to the Axel and get new springs?
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I would suggets getting a Marzocchi. Every one I know that rides with a Manitou has problems. Especialy the bigger riders or the guys that ride more aggressively.

Not that it happens a lot but yesterday we had a guy at the races have his Manitou Black fall apart, literaly. If you like fast dh I highly recomend a stronger fork.
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For a XC tire I like the Maxxis Mobsters. They have a low rolling resistance and good cornering traction. If you want a dh tire then it would depend on the terrain on what I would use.
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i would get a marz....the problem is that i have invested 120$ for adaptors and rotors for the manitou type mount....and since i went almost bankrupt for getting xt discs onto manitou forks i think that i want to stick with the manitou range. I want an XC tyre...so i was thinking about the Michelin CompS light...what do you think?
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just get a stiffer spring before you go overboard and get a new fork
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Thanks all for the replies.... i could really use some more opinions for the Trailblaster vs Michelin Comp S tires.
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For xc I have heard that the Mich. are good tires. I have no personal expieriance with them, only the dh tires. For my xc rides i use the maxxis and they handle everything well, no complaints.

I have also used the Hutchinson Pythons and those worked well also. I guess it also depends on the terrain. I ride mostly soft sand/over hard packed trails and slick rock. The Maxxis and the Hutchinsons are my two first choices.
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What bike are you riding? If you are not to concerned about weight and want to stick with Manitou then I would say look at the Sherman Flick. It is 2.12 kilos but it is a much stronger fork then the black. The Firefly is 1.9 kilos but i believe it only comes with a 20mm axle.

Of the tires you are asking about I would give the Mich. a shot.
I have used the Panaracers and did not like them for the conditions i ride
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I got a specialized rockhopper 2003 hardtail...i like light stuff...but strong as well...so i steer clear of SID/Skareb stuff.
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should i say sag???? if i was wrong excuse me.... i meant the amount of travel that gets lost when i just sit on the bike...it should be around 10% of total travel whereas on my fork is 60%. So maelstrom you think i should stick to the Axel and get new springs?
Sorry didnt mean to come accross as mean...I thought maybe shag was another word I didn't know people used. I find a lot of those on these bb's that I visit....so sag is it...get a Marz they are built for bigger riders...obviously when you can afford it...for now don't bother with a new fork and get stiffer springs and save for a good Marz fork.

as for tires...it depends on terrain..I can't even figure out which ones I like
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Then I would not get the Sherman. It would drasticly change the bikes geometry.

Go with Mael, keep the Black, get stiffer springs and save up for a Zoch in the future.
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I dont have a black i have an Axel fork....wish i had the black....so i should get the stiffer spring for the Axel and later on get a black or a Zoch?
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The Comp S rolls fast like most Michelins, but it's been rumored that Michelin tires have weak sidewalls. I cut the actual BEAD of one of mine during a fast rocky downhill, but I blame myself for the damage for running the pressure too low. The sidwalls seem plenty strong to me. I really like Michelin's tires... they really know their stuff when it comes to traction.
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