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Old 04-04-03, 09:13 PM   #1
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Info on Bighit

I checked out the bike and it looks pretty good. There were a few scratches on it, but the frame despite being a little dirty looked like it was in good condition. The shiver had new crowns put on and a new headset was put in during the process. The front tire is worn down but he will give me a new one. The seat post got messed up during the shipping process from when he bought it but he will give me a new one, and a another seat if I want it. He also said he would give me a norshore chain guide. The only thing component wise I dont like are the rims which are rhynolites which I know some of you love and hate.

I asked him how much he has ridden it and he said barely any over the last 4 months. He told me he purchased it up in canadian from a guy who worked in a shop and raced xc. So most likely he didnt abuse the bike that much since xc (apparently) was his focus. So taking into consideration that the guy I might buy it from is telling the truth and hasnt abused it much, I would really only be the 2nd owner if you look at it that way.

I worked him down to $900 so im kinda tempted. What do yall think.
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Old 04-04-03, 09:34 PM   #2
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I checked out the bike and it looks pretty good. There were a few scratches on it, but the frame despite being a little dirty looked like it was in good condition. The shiver had new crowns put on and a new headset was put in during the process. The front tire is worn down but he will give me a new one. The seat post got messed up during the shipping process from when he bought it but he will give me a new one, and a another seat if I want it. He also said he would give me a norshore chain guide. The only thing component wise I dont like are the rims which are rhynolites which I know some of you love and hate.
Sounds good. Rynolites are 'decent' but really don't belong on a burly freerider...

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I live in CANADA and am a CANADIAN...arg

And our version of xc is light freeriding...but no biggy that bike can take it.

900$ is good...especially with the parts on it...can you get it looked at by a mech to check bearings and such...???
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Why were the fork crowns and headset replaced?????

Is the headtube ovalized???


Still unsure about condition!

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I dont know the answer to either of those question a2. What are the implications of an ovalized headtube? The condition is used....some scratches and scuffs........grips are a little worn down. But most of the stuff that is worn he is willing to replace...

Maelstrom....I think checking out the bearings would be a good idea as well as the overall condition of the bike from a mech. Since the bike Is at a ship by his house that just might be possible.
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I'd be very skeptical!!!!

I'd be curious to know why those parts were replaced. When you have to replace those two specific items, the bike has been crashed! Usually they're replaced due to damage. Damage How? Usually hitting something while moving forward causing the forks to bend back toward the frame, or while attempting a drop or a jump where you case it, and the forks are bent forward.

Either case, the force from the impact can cause the headtube to become ovalized, bigger front to back. If that's the situation, the frame is generally toast! Typical symptoms of this damage is the headset is loose in the frame. Try to grab the exposed headset races and turn them. If you can, forget about the bike.

Ask if you can remove the stem and upper crown. If you can, remove the fork from the bike. If the headset's races come out by hand, you've got a junk frame!

In rare cases, you can ream and reface the headtube. Or, Chris King is now making a Steelset headset with extra deep bearing races. You press these into the frame, and the idea is that the extra depth reaches the non-ovalized portion of the headtube. Not an acceptable possible fix for a bike you're buying. IMO!

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Old 04-05-03, 02:17 AM   #6
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I have made a few decisions. I will buy the bike based on some criteria.

1. I will ask the guy why he replaced the headset and crowns.

2. I will make take the bike to a mechanic and have the bearings, frame, and headset/headtube checked out.

Just will have to see if the bike checks out with a mechanic. Thats the only way I will buy it now also given he gives me the parts I requested and he offered.
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Sounds a little iffy to me.

First off, it was bought from a CANADIAN who wanted to use it for XC. Need I say more?

Seriously, I have shipped many bikes and have never had a problem with the seat tube getting messed up.

The bike was originaly purchased buy a guy who rides xc and works in a shop( does not mean squat ), hmmmm, unles he was/is a compleate moron then could he not tell the bike is NOT a xc bike while it was sitting there in the shop?

Personaly, I would never buy a 2 year old freeride bike, especially that has had more then one previous owner. Remember, there are some cool peps out there but most of the time they are trying to close the deal. Perhaps the guy you are dealing with is telling you what he knows but how do you know that the guy he bought it from was not giving him a line of shyte?
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I forgot to mention ;

REPLACE THE HEADSET AND CROWNS? DUUUUUDE DON'T DO IT!!

If this bike has as little/easy rides on it as you were told there is no way that the headset let alone the crowns need to be replaced.

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Good idea but if something happend to warent new crowns, how is the machanic going to notice a fracture that could be starting under the paint on the head tube/down tube/top tube?
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You guys are making a lot of sense and are slowly talking me out of it....Sounds like there are too many chances I'll be taking.

Im gonna call the guy and ask him why he had it the headset replaced anyway. But in any case, Im hoping that Klein will still sell me his bike.
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Ok guys thanks. I am not buying that bike. I talked to the guy in the shop its located at and he pretty much talked me out of it. He said the headtube is ovalized and he had to push a fsa pig dh headset into the headtube. He then told me that the headset that had been in there before just slipped out due to the ovalization. The he told me that it was hard to puish in the new headset but not nearly as hard as it is on a new frame or a normal frame. He told me that he had to reface it or something to make it stronger.

So im glad I didnt buy the bike yesterday and stopped back with you guys for further consultation. Thanks for the help.
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