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Old 04-05-03, 01:07 PM   #1
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Crashes due to fork?

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I have been *****ing lately for the lack of stiffness of my fork (previous post) . I got the advice of getting new springs on the fork from you. I got two crashes today on a 7 hour epic ride, caused by bottoming out of the soft fork .... . It is 80mm manitou Axel fork with medium spring. If i get the stiffer spring and convert it to 100mm will i see any improvement? i do aggro xc and there is a loooooot of bumpy stuff around here that easily bottom out my fork and send me over the bars. By the way i can bottom out the fork while pressing the bars. Any advice on the excess travel? should i go for 100mm? I got a 2003 rockhopper HT frame.
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Old 04-05-03, 01:20 PM   #2
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yes you will see an improvement...you will have stiffer springs and have more travel to blow through...

Also try to suck some up with your arms...I had a crappy exr and the only time I bottomed it out was on drops. Never just riding along on bumpy stuff. It may not be perfect but it will help. (arms always bent)
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thanks mael....i usually have the arms bent....but the bloody fork is so soft that i think i would even be safer with a rigid one....i hope with the new springs they will be back in action.....the problem with the softness intensified....as the fork bedded int....when it was new i had less problems...now that the seals and stuff are bed in its way too soft and i definately need 100mm plus the stiff spring..... I think that a 120mm or 130mm fork would be an overkill for my frame right?
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It would definately change the performance of it. Overkill..I don't know your trails or your style so I cant tell you that. But handling changes drastically if you change the fork travel too much.
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just a thought.........................maby your crashing is due to rider error
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Respectable thought since most of us dont know each other.... i make errors....like all of us....but i can definately tell when i get betrayed by the bike or by my skill
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Crank down on whatever knobs are on the top, if that dosent help get stiffer springs. And.....yea i'll just not say what else I was going to.
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Holding yourself back Klein...you sick today?
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Holding yourself back Klein...you sick today?

Do you think I should go off?
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yes shoot me right away
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Stiffer springs will help a lot. Plus, if you go to 100mm it won't affect the bike's handling drasitcally. I say, "go for it".

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I have finally found the fork that works for me (200 pounds) After various forks with springs and elastomer inserts I opened my wallet and bought an '02 SID XL. What a difference. Selectable travel and easy to adjust compression/rebound. Have done rougher riding on this fork than I ever did on the previous ones and never a bother with bottoming. I had the Manitou that came on my Fuel 90 rebuilt twice. And never was any good. The SID given me a big boost in confidence and I now ride with abandon on trails I would not have attempted before. I got mine off of eBay for $289. Was new and unused with the factory warranty.
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Thanks a lot for the advice guys . I ll go for the springs and travel change..... Do you know if i can fit a lockout mechanism on the Axel fork? Manitou provides a lockout upgrade but i dont know to which fork it applies.
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