BEST Winter Tires - Non-studded
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BEST Winter Tires - Non-studded
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I would really appreciate your input about the above topic - Winter Tires. Please list 3 tires that you think is the best for the conditions in the NorthEastern USA or similar conditions. I am talking about 80% country road riding (fairly regularly maintained, but still have snow, slash and some icy substance) and 20% trail riding (maintained trails, with some rocks and medium size roots; also some snow mobil tracks).
I know that the sutdded tires (with metal studs) would probably work the best, but I would like to get a list of non-studded tires that may be good for these condition out of the box. let me know your opinion. thanks a lot.
I would really appreciate your input about the above topic - Winter Tires. Please list 3 tires that you think is the best for the conditions in the NorthEastern USA or similar conditions. I am talking about 80% country road riding (fairly regularly maintained, but still have snow, slash and some icy substance) and 20% trail riding (maintained trails, with some rocks and medium size roots; also some snow mobil tracks).
I know that the sutdded tires (with metal studs) would probably work the best, but I would like to get a list of non-studded tires that may be good for these condition out of the box. let me know your opinion. thanks a lot.
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I'm not sure but try checking out the Winter Cycling forum. I'd imagine that could help you out as well. It's a little further down the list of forums.
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Panaracer Cinder, Panaracer Cinder, Panaracer Cinder. you said name 3 and thats all I use for all conditions without any problems year round
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I know its a dead old thread, but just to learn from your experience.
I have used the Panaracer Cinder with good results last winter. I am thinking if there is anything else with comparable performance on wet, snow, icy conditions. I dont need studded though.
I think the Cinder's material was not soft enough for sleek conditions. How about Hutchinson Bulldog? would they be any good for snow/ice.
I have used the Panaracer Cinder with good results last winter. I am thinking if there is anything else with comparable performance on wet, snow, icy conditions. I dont need studded though.
I think the Cinder's material was not soft enough for sleek conditions. How about Hutchinson Bulldog? would they be any good for snow/ice.
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there is a tire called the octopus and it is good for the snow
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www.mbuk.co.uk
its a awesome bikin magazine in teh uk, dnt know if u get it in US, but they just did a tried and tested on winter tyres, or it might hav been tryes for in the mud, but it'll still be useful
i dunno if u'll be able to find the article on their website, but its worth a look anyway
its a awesome bikin magazine in teh uk, dnt know if u get it in US, but they just did a tried and tested on winter tyres, or it might hav been tryes for in the mud, but it'll still be useful
i dunno if u'll be able to find the article on their website, but its worth a look anyway
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I use maxxis swamp things as winter tyres but where I'm from it only rains and sometimes hails in winter where I'm from so I dunno.
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Okay here is the list I came up with......i picked these based on knob design and price......weight is not a major factor cause if you have ridden in snow you know that there is more than weight to think about.....
and I am not rich or skilled enough to count grams....darn I dont even own a scale....
here are the picks
Panaracer Cinder
Panaracer Fire XC with 2.25 width
IRC Backcountry
WTB Timberwolf
Geax Blades are out cause they catch so much mud and snow inbetween the knobs...
thanks for your help
and I am not rich or skilled enough to count grams....darn I dont even own a scale....
here are the picks
Panaracer Cinder
Panaracer Fire XC with 2.25 width
IRC Backcountry
WTB Timberwolf
Geax Blades are out cause they catch so much mud and snow inbetween the knobs...
thanks for your help
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Maxxis Swampthings are great in the sketchiest conditions. You might try Cinders in the front and the Maxxis Swampthing in the rear, especially for deeper snow, off-road conditions. The Swampthing rolls really slowly, so front and rear maybe too much unless it's all mud. Timberwolf has really deep treads so also rolls slowly.
Generally, I agree with iamthetas, and use Cinders year round, 95% of the time (Ontario, Canada).
Generally, I agree with iamthetas, and use Cinders year round, 95% of the time (Ontario, Canada).
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thank you. that was helpful. do you think there is a huge difference between the rubbers in Maxxis and like Cinder or Timberwolf. Which one is softer, ther reason I am asking is softer tires would be better on snow, but I understand that they would wear out faster on pavements or rocks....thats a compromize I am willing to make if it allows me to ride during winter...
thanks again.
thanks again.
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me not drilling any holes anywhere, anytime soon.......
I tried this before with horrible results.....if I did that all winter I would have the strength of the mighty monster....
could not bike up the hill with them......by the way if you wan studded tires...nasbar has some for around $30......
I just use wide tires with deep knobs......you are right about the ice though.
I tried this before with horrible results.....if I did that all winter I would have the strength of the mighty monster....
could not bike up the hill with them......by the way if you wan studded tires...nasbar has some for around $30......
I just use wide tires with deep knobs......you are right about the ice though.
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I took a pair of older tires I had and just put sheet metal screws in them.
Took about two hours for each tire with 172 screws in each one, but they hook up pretty good.
Took about two hours for each tire with 172 screws in each one, but they hook up pretty good.
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My experience with homemade studded tires was a disaster. I spent 5 hours and had close to 400 screws per tire. They worked great on the icy trails...for about 5 miles. After 5 miles or so the screws had completely disappeared, they had ground down to the rubber. Oh and I was riding on nice frozen dirt with some large ice patches, no gravel or pavement or rocks!
Studded tires from Nokian and major tire manufactures use carbide and there for are much more durable and will not wear as quickly.
But over all I will probably stud another pair of tires this season just for the hell of it.
Studded tires from Nokian and major tire manufactures use carbide and there for are much more durable and will not wear as quickly.
But over all I will probably stud another pair of tires this season just for the hell of it.
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I have two years on my tires, they've been ridden on ice and concrete.
Hardly any wear at all.
Hardly any wear at all.
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