Thanks guys. The vintage guys say pretty much the same~1990.
cyccomute-makes sense I guess-they aren't horizontal, but not quite vertical.They are also waaaay shorter than any horizontal dropouts, but are just a tiny bit deeper than most vertical dropouts.Thanks.
trin2du-I don't know anything about Biopace, but they seem ok. Still in business?Thanks.
lbthomps-Great minds think alike-crossed my mind to get out the grinder-if only to be able to run a slightly bigger tire by pulling it back more.Thanks