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Old 12-24-06, 10:15 AM   #1
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I was wondering can anybody help me with some link's about frame's or front suspensions. Thing is that I have some work for school so I chose one of these two. Is about material's of chosen part's. I was searching for something online myself but didn't found nothing. So if anybody know some link about some serious stuff with materials, how it is made, itc let me know. Tnx
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Old 12-24-06, 04:07 PM   #2
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I think your english beats my english hands down!

Can you be more specific?

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Old 12-25-06, 04:09 AM   #3
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More specific... ok .... I'm searching something like this:
For front fork: Part's that it is asambled are made of different materials like steel, magnesium, alloy ... itc. So what I need is some documents where it is writen about that. Also how it is made of, are there some special tretmant and other stuff.
And for frames: is it form steel, alloy or from carbon, witch is better and why, how are they built, ....
Anything....
Hope that someone can help
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hmm, practically the most common material used in MTB is aluminium, second is carbon and then titanium. Aluminium is used because its easily found which makes it cheap and it is lighter then steel (generally speaking), carbon on the other hand is a material that is lighter then Aluminium and is cheaper then Titanium. Carbon advantages is that it can absorb bump vibrations but If you crash, your carbon lifespan will greatly reduced (recommended is to change your carbon after 2 years) .Well I dont know much but titanium though but it is sure expensive.

There are some companies like Maxm and Titus which uses new technology which combines 2 materials called the Exogrid and Isogrid. They combine metals like Titanium and Carbon using a process they called Bi-Fusion to combine it. Pretty impressive actually.

Anyway for standard mountain biking, aluminium is good. If you want lightweight and have a lot of money to spend on carbon is a good alternative, Dont forget titanium frame also
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The Malaysian man has it right.

I know what your asking, look in a manuel of somthing. I will look and post some if I find some!

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Try this
http://www.foxracingshox.com/fox_tech_center/index.htm

http://www.specialized.com/bc/techlab_zertz.jsp

http://www.specialized.com/bc/techlab_fsr.jsp

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http://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCDownloads.jsp
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hmm, practically the most common material used in MTB is aluminium, second is carbon and then titanium. Aluminium is used because its easily found which makes it cheap and it is lighter then steel (generally speaking), carbon on the other hand is a material that is lighter then Aluminium and is cheaper then Titanium. Carbon advantages is that it can absorb bump vibrations but If you crash, your carbon lifespan will greatly reduced (recommended is to change your carbon after 2 years) .Well I dont know much but titanium though but it is sure expensive.

There are some companies like Maxm and Titus which uses new technology which combines 2 materials called the Exogrid and Isogrid. They combine metals like Titanium and Carbon using a process they called Bi-Fusion to combine it. Pretty impressive actually.

Anyway for standard mountain biking, aluminium is good. If you want lightweight and have a lot of money to spend on carbon is a good alternative, Dont forget titanium frame also
You've forgotten STEEL!!!!! I would agree that aluminum is the most popular. This would be followed by steel, then titanium and THEN Carbon.

In the gauges that aluminum is made for bikes, it will fail. Eventually the fatigue will crack it. Steel is much more durable as is titanium.

For shocks, Fox is the best in the XC world. Marzocchi is a strong player as is Manitou and Rockshox. For the best "bang for your buck" RockShox is the choice.
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well Steel is as durable as titanium but it is heavier. Hmm...I wonder what if you mix Steel and Aluminium. Make it become like ExoGrid
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Fox is the best in the XC world.
Yeah well,opininions are like a**holes ,everyone has one
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Im a fan of Fox and Rocksox
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Thaks guys! I made my work for colage and ... you are not gonna believe it but when I started to make a presentation about this I tried to connect to bikeforums I couldn't!!! what a bad luck ... :|
So I wrote what I remembered and find some interesting stuff on net. If you are interesting here are 2 link:
http://materials.npl.co.uk/NewIOP/TheBike.html
Thanks again..... cya around
PS. I have marzocchi
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Thaks guys! I made my work for colage and ... you are not gonna believe it but when I started to make a presentation about this I tried to connect to bikeforums I couldn't!!! what a bad luck ... :|
So I wrote what I remembered and find some interesting stuff on net. If you are interesting here are 2 link:
http://materials.npl.co.uk/NewIOP/TheBike.html
Thanks again..... cya around
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Wow that must have taken a while. Great job! Its way above my education, but it dosnt take much
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Old 12-29-06, 01:49 PM   #12
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Wow that must have taken a while. Great job! Its way above my education, but it dosnt take much
I don't think he wrote that, but rather pointed it out as a reference he found when doing some research for his presentation. Surely he didn't extract all of that from a couple Wheelhot posts.
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Surely he didn't extract all of that from a couple Wheelhot posts.
What are you talking about? His posts are always filled with jewels of knowledge!
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http://www.sheldonbrown.com/frame-materials.html
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I love SheldonBrown stuffs. His site is very usefull at some matters.
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Old 12-30-06, 06:22 AM   #16
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Yes.... I founded that site also. It's not that bad.... (PS. I don't know did you noticed but I sad "here are 2 site's..." but post just 1 , that's the other one )
Anyway nice stuff can be found on net
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