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Old 12-27-06, 01:56 PM   #1
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Replacing derailleur cables

Now that I've got my X9 shifters and X9 rd, I'm almost ready to replace my shimano mega 9 setup. I want to replace the cables and housings also- are Sram Pit Stops / Avid Flak Jacket cables any better than just generic cables/housings or is it not worth the extra $$ than just generic SS cables and SIS housings? Obviously, I want quick, smooth, trouble free shifting
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Old 12-27-06, 02:00 PM   #2
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Most of the time I just use generic qbp cables. They seem to work as well as anything else does for me. I just change them once or twice a season (unless they break or something). Just takes a few minutes to change them so it's really no big deal.

I did install a set of Nokon cables on my IF recently. I'm not overly impressed with them either. At least not impressed enough to but $110 cables again. They do look cool though.
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Old 12-27-06, 04:39 PM   #3
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Raiyn used to swear by Drycables.com while he was still hanging out here. A guy in my club who happened to be a regional rep for a lot of well known bike products also uses Dry Cables. I really trust both of their opinions.

I have a set for my mechanical brakes that is waiting to go on my new build. I'll let you know what my thoughts are after I've spent some time with them.
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Old 12-28-06, 07:55 AM   #4
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Brand new ... there is no difference between normal teflon cables and flak jackets. But as time goes by, dust and grit will collect in the open cable system. Eventually this causes extra friction in the system that may be more than the return spring can handle (especially in Shimano derailleurs).

Ultimately, closed systems (Flak Jackets, DryCables, full housing runs) last longer. You can get Flak Jacket for $20 at Pricepoint.com. At that point, they aren't much more expensive then generics.

Finally, I would point out the error in more than one cycling book that I've seen. Some sources say you should grease your cables. In the modern days of teflon cables and housings, this is not a good thing. The grease will actually add more resistance to the system. The right stuff to use is a teflon lube.
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Old 12-28-06, 03:07 PM   #5
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I used to use plain old generic housing and had shifting issues after every couple of rides. Now I use Avid Flak Jackets. Since I installed them I have not touched my cables or had any shiftin problems. It has been 2 years now.
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I say go for a basic cable/housing deal and apply the money saved toward some other bike bling. QBP or Shimano cables, some generic housing and cheap ferrules work super if they are installed non-binding and a good lube combination is used. I make sure the housing has nice flowing bends before cutting and after cutting the housing I make sure that it's smooth on the ends. Tri Flow or Phil Wood Tenacious Oil dripped onto the cables and into the housing followed up with feeding the cables through Phi Wood grease while putting the cable into the housing will provide a lubing that will make you smile. This lubing method will provide long term lubing and will ooz out of your housing a lot. The oozing will also slightly help to prevent junk from messing with the smoothness because it ever so slightly blocks junk from getting into the housing thus making a sorta' closed system that is closed off with lube. Lube dripped where the cable goes through barrel adjusters and where the cable end contacts inside the lever adds even more smoothness....

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I just use the standard cable and if it sticks spray some lithium grease up the housing and its all good. Even $100 cables will shift like crap if they are out of tune. Money saved gets spent on tacos. Tacos are better than cables.
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not much to say about my flak jackets. i click the button, and it shifts....

i guess thats all you gotta say?

well, they also look pretty sweet. so for $22 from pricepoint, why not?
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They do look cool though.
That's the only reason they'e going on my Nomad
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That's the only reason they'e going on my Nomad
When you do the install put a little lube on each piece, this should keep them from creeking like crazy like they do on mine.
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When you do the install put a little lube on each piece, this should keep them from creeking like crazy like they do on mine.
Interesting, something like a tri flow or more like a phils? Make take a while more, but it's winter at the shop, and I got nothing better to do
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now that I have heard some from both sides....makes my decision harder! I'm anxious to put these on, so keep the opinions coming
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