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Old 05-01-03, 09:45 PM   #1
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Hayes Hydraulic Disc gone bad.

I think I did something stupid.. While cleaning my bike I squeezed the brake handle. They are “Hayes Hydraulic Disc”. When I went to put the wheel back on, the pads were squeezed together to tight. Now I can’t figure out how to loosen them.

Has anyone ever had this problem before?
What do I need to do?
I'll be riding tomorrow at 9am unless I can't fix this...

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Below is a pic of the brake pads where the disc slides in between. You can see how much wider the slot just below the pads is.

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Old 05-01-03, 10:01 PM   #2
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Help, help, help......
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Stick a flat-head screw driver in between the pucks and gently pry them apart by twisting the screwdriver. Continue prying gently back and forth after the pucks have reached a width that exceeds the width of the screwdriver. You can use a shop towel to cover the screwdriver head to prevent nicking the pucks.
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Old 05-01-03, 10:04 PM   #4
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Thx, I was concerned that I might have to bleed the brakes or something like that... which I don't yet have the knowledge of how to do that either. I'm sure when the time comes I'll be asking questions here again.
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Did it work for you? Hope you have a good ride tomorrow!
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Yeah it worked, thank you.
Now I can't seem to be able to put the chain back on.... I took it all apart to clean everything and now the chain is oddly loose.
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Make sure your chain is going through the idlers correctly. There are some metal crossover pieces in the idler assy that the chain has to go through also. Make sure it's not resting on top of them. If you are in your small-small rings the chain will seem loose though.
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I think I might have it set up wrong or something... any help?
Do i just need to put the chain on top of that bottom gear? I'm going to continue to mess with it. I think that degreaser is getting to me.

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Sure looks wrong! Instead of trying to explain it, check out this page and you can see how it should be routed. Good Luck!
http://www.parktool.com/repair_help/...inlength.shtml
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lol that picutre of your chain routing is f'ing hilarious...
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Thx for the link.
I was hoping for an easy answer... time to study. lol
I know the problem is easy it’s just I've never really messed with the mechanical side of biking before.
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lol that picutre of your chain routing is f'ing hilarious...
Hey if that pic got you to join just to make fun of then at least it was good for something.
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It's the degreaser.
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Ok. The moral of this thread is; don’t clean your chain with degreaser in a stove up room. My head started to hurt and I though I was going to throw a few chunks.. When I finally figure out what I was doing wrong I just laughed... maybe we could delete this thread or something... Or just leave it up. Someone else might go through this same adventure but not want to let everyone know about it.
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Crude drawing. Hope it helps.
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Looks like I was too late with the artistry. Hope Inkwolf doesn't see it!
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Hey Wait,
I wasnt trying to be rude about your chain setup there, just thought it was funny I think it might be a little easier for you if you put the wheel on and then route the chain. Maybe this pic will help you. You need to rotate that one sprocket down. In this pic the blue is your chain routing, red is the sprockets. Hopefully this will make sense, I made it REALLY quickly....
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Woops, guess i was a little late with the graphic...
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No problem Justin. Welcome to the Forum.
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No you guys weren't to late. I just thought I had it right. It took me until now to figure it out. Started at 10:45......it is now 12:53. Zzzzzzzz..... I'll never do that again.

Now that I have the chain on the brakes are still real snug.. I'm going to have to mess with them a little more.

Thx guys for your attempts to help correct my ignorance.

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There is so much resistance with the pads pressing up against the discs now that wouldn't even want to ride the bike. I'll press on tomorrow, for now I'm going to bed. I hope I didn't break anything.

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lol that's a funny ass derailleur pic man! looks like something I would do, but it's good you're learning how to take apart the bike. I'll need to do this someday and I'm sure you'll see some funny looking pictures like that from me.
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Sure hope he ventilated that room before he went to bed. He might get up with a Lulu of a headache - provided he gets up when he's supposed to that is.
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Yeah I left the doors open for a few hours before I even went back in there. I think I got a good wiff of that crap when I was using it.
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