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Old 02-17-07, 09:48 PM   #1
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Looking for SS frame advice

Folks,

I've got a box of parts that minus a frame (which I want to be steel) = a new bike.
I have a Rohloff hub with a disk brake, so I am looking at frames that either have an eccentric bottom bracket (example Salsa's El Mariachi), sliding dropouts (ex On-One's 29er, which has been out of stock for months), or horizontal dropouts that will work with disks (ex the [Surley Pugsley]).
What else is out there? I know I'm missing god knows how many other frames, but I'm googled out.
Must be steel, not looking for custom made (ex IF, I don't want to wait two years for a frame), but an off the shelf SS frame.

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Old 02-17-07, 09:55 PM   #2
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zion series for budget. at jensonusa

they have EBB reg and 29er i believe
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Old 02-17-07, 09:57 PM   #3
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Thanks MX, I'll look them up.
I should add I'm willing to go as high as a grand on a frame.

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well if that is the case...there is a plethora of frames available and everyone is going to have an opinion.

while i know many like EBB, if i was doing the build i would lean towards a horizontal dropout in lieu of the EBB.

i read a lot of decent things in the 29er forum on the zion even though they are cheap. it is a simple no frills frame.
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http://www.somafab.com/frames_main.html

http://www.somafab.com/4one5.html

i have/had a few of their frames and they appear to be made nicely. however, i am not an expert in fabrication.
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well if that is the case...there is a plethora of frames available and everyone is going to have an opinion.

while i know many like EBB, if i was doing the build i would lean towards a horizontal dropout in lieu of the EBB.

i read a lot of decent things in the 29er forum on the zion even though they are cheap. it is a simple no frills frame.
I don't have that much knowledge about mountain frames (road frames I know) and got overwhelmed by everything I found on the web. It's everyone's opinion I'm looking for, helps to weed out the trash.

I also prefer horizontal dropouts to EBB's but I have no real preference beyond being able to work with disks.


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I don't have that much knowledge about mountain frames (road frames I know) and got overwhelmed by everything I found on the web. It's everyone's opinion I'm looking for, helps to weed out the trash.

I also prefer horizontal dropouts to EBB's but I have no real preference beyond being able to work with disks.


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the nice thing about zion is that they don't have rim brake bosses. it is rare to find cheaper frames without them. unless of course you like them? i always use discs so i don't like those bosses. i went through a lot of trouble to get my Soma Juice frame sans bosses. now i have no money to build it...i have the frame to look at though!
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I'd just as soon the brake bosses not be there, but I can live with them.

I had overlooked Soma, thanks again MX. Both the 4one5 and the Juice look interesting.
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Gastro - check the 'blog' at the salsa site - I think the mariachi's are arriving in the next week or 2.
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in your price range, there are loads of options. a surly 1x1 is a good, cheap option. i dont own one, but i know a couple people that do, and they dont have anything bad to say at all:http://www.surlybikes.com/1X1.html

if your dead set on steel, then ignore this but giant makes a aluminum frame called the "2to1" that is also great.
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Gunner is another frame I overlooked, thanks. The Ruffian is a sweet frame. If the Rock Tour had an EBB, I would have found my frame.

I'm dead set on steel.

I agree I can't find anything wrong with Surley, and the 1x1 will be on the short list.
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Tom Teesdale will build you a singlespeed for under a grand, and you'll like it.

http://www.tetcycles.com/Specials/specials.html

I have a kona that he built, and a over a decade later I still refuse to get rid of it.
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Gastro - check the 'blog' at the salsa site - I think the mariachi's are arriving in the next week or 2.
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Random question:

What bike should I get?
What stem should I buy?
What chainrings?
Seatposts?
Best tubes ever, ever, ever?
Best dance style?
What should I dip my tri tip in?
What should never be left out of a good mountain of nachos?

Answer from "sponsored" teenie bopper with little to zero experience on any Salsa bicycling product:

Salsa
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I liked salsa's stems.

Why'd they take off that nifty brake cable roller, though? Jeez!
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Have you looked into Fetish Cycles?
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Have you looked into Fetish Cycles?
Beautiful looking frames, but I'm dead set on steel.
It looks like I'm going with a VooDoo, most likely a Wanga.
I prefer the sliding dropouts to an EBB, and the price on the frame seems reasonable.
Thanks for all the advice,

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