CanadianKona

I'm lookin into buying a new dirt jumper when I get the money together and I'm wonderin if anyone has any suggestions. My nearest retailer sells both Kona and Norco so I get the same warranty. I have an 06 Hoss so I'm fairly happy with the Kona brand. I'm lookin to spend a max of 1100 dollars cdn.

scrublover

go ride everything from both companies that fits your budget. buy whichever fits/feels the best. within similar pricepoints, build specs will be similar as well.

FreeRidin'

Both lines are very solid, but I would much prefer a Specialized P series bike.

scrublover

Didja' miss this part?

WannaGetGood

Kona all the way.

FreeRidin'

I'm just saying I would much prefer a Specialized P bike.

TheFlip

I vote the norco two 50 based solely on the fact that it's steel and 200 over your budget (to contribute the least to this thread as possible).
I will recommend to go out, ride them all and get the one which fits best.

zephyr16

yeah i have a norco 416 reynolds and its pretty good. headtube is a little steep, but not to bad...

the two50 is good, and if this is going to be a pure dirt jumper, then ss is a good way to lose some of the exta pounds thats djers all have.
you need to make sure that your getting a dirt jumper. norco and kona both make bikes that are almost identical in their spec, frame style and price. and they all suck. all of those norco/kona/devinci north shore hardtail bikes are ****. they are not dirt jumpers. theyre the bikes that no one can sell because

i gotta agree with freeridin' that specialized is the way to go. find a bike store that carries them. you live on the wet coast so it shouldnt be a problem. the 07s are sick, good spec and they look amazing. theyve got steel, aluminum, ss and geared. personally, i think a steel singlespeed would be the best choice for a djer, but to each their own.

zephyr16

are you a dick all the time?

Punx

I agree, The Specialized P Series, looks very nice like a P1 for $700. P2 for $1100.

Maelstrom 

I don't get irked by much, but it drives me ****ing nuts when someone does this

I want a dh bike, but only have access to kona and specialized.

Answer - I like norcos, you should look at blah blah

Seriously, its just stupid. Find a lot of randoms come in asking non specific questions but this guy knew what he wanted. I don't know about scrub, but that how I feel about it, if you dont like the brands I am looking at (pretending to be op) then leave your opinion at the door.

scrublover

Only when it's required by reading comprehension impaired asshats such as yourself.

FreeRidin'

The OP never stated it had to be a Norco or a Kona. I was simply suggesting that maybe it would be worth it to drive the extra 30 minutes to take a look a Specialized.

the wonginator

agreed with freeridin'. though norco and kona are the closest, i think you will be far happier with a p.1 or even p.2, which is only 1100 MSRP. p.2 cromo is like a p1.5 and is definetely worth the cromo frame if you want steel and to spend a little less money.

brad06ag

Why the lovefest for specialized anyway? I guess i've just never understood it.

I would lean towards the kona over the norco (and especially over the p bikes, i personally am not a fan of them). There are also lots of other great DJ frames out there and you might consider asking around/reading on another forum that is more oriented to DJing. I check in here from time to time and find alot more XC oriented talk (not to say that there aren't those here that do know there stuff).

the wonginator

i'm a dirtjumper. i've ridden norco's, i've ridden konas. specializeds i find feel the best.

zephyr16

right. and im the reading impaired asshat. his nearest retailer. not "i only am considering norco or specialized". i and others are only sugesting that he maybe look at some different brands, and you need to get your panties in a knot.

zephyr16

yeah except he never said that, he just said he lbs carried them, and if hes shelling out that much cash, he would probably be willing to find a shop that carriers other makes and try them out, just for kicks.


Oh, so the next time someone asks which bike they should buy CCM or NEXT, your not going to tell them that theyre garbage? of course you not, that would be hypocritical...

scrublover

Heh. Hey, you're the one that started in with the name calling first. Not sure why. Are you feeling insecure about something? You seem to be awfully defensive about stuff on a net message board. Some people are way too uptight.

The OP asked about two brands, from his nearest shop. The fact that he didn't mention any other brands, or shops, I take to mean he is buying from the shop mentioned.

Maelstrom 

For your size and style. I don't like the fit of the p series. I find them very short in the tt. They are leaning more towards bmx than mtb.

Kona and Norco are more similar to mtbike in geometry (ok I am talking a couple of years ago) but maybe the OP mentioned the bikes he did because they fit, available or he might like them more

Maelstrom 

Thats different. The comparrison isn't remotely even. Buying a toy as a real bike is one thing, buying a real bike but being limited by location is entirely another.

CanadianKona

well my dealer also has the best warranty on Vancouver Island where any repairs and tune ups are free for one year. Also, not many other quality places specialize in great bikes, some Rocky Mountains and Brodies and the odd Specialized but other than that my options are sort of limited.

Echo_Control

Why? They've got such low bottom bracket heights it makes me want to vomit. They have nothing over the other two brands, I've actually seen a lot more specialized bikes crack in the last 2 years than anything. The older P bikes go at the headtube, and the newer style ones go at the seat stays.

I'll second that.

FreeRidin'

Ummm...Why do people like chocolate?

I have been riding an 04 P3 with 150mm up front for close to 2 years now...

Echo_Control

Because caffeine is addictive.
My buddy has an 04 p3 frame with a manitou sherman 150 mm, and his cracked at the headtube, and I've got another buddy with a white p3 (no idea what year? 05 maybe?) and he ran a 110 mm fork until his cracked in the same place...