mx_599

this true. however, there is an intimate connection between the two. one shouldn't neglect the consideration of adjusting one with the change in another.

never

Obviously, as with all of the other settings on a given fork but for the sake of jm01, it appears he's confusing the two and needs to know that each rebound and compression are adjusted independently on his two forks.

Gravity Worx

I actually put that spring rate and preload control bottoming and sag. Maybe I should have seperated the 2 points? Ya, maybe.
I was trying to keep it basic for the questions at hand.
Spring rate has lots to do with bottoming, and from there preload has everything to do with sag.


To take it further, there is also oil weight, high speed dampening, low speed damping, etc. depending on the equipment at hand
I just didn't see the need for info over load, so I threw a basic set up out there with the thought that the OP would learn more from there with experience just as most others have.

Gravity Worx

Also very true ^^^^

The zip tie hasn't caused me any problems, but I can see the point.

cryptid01

To varying extents, and with one notable exception, yes.

I can't. From a practical standpoint, I don't see the need to completely disassemble my fork to install an o-ring on the off chance that a zip-tie might scratch the stanchion the couple times it gets pushed to it's limit. I do have an open mind, however, so I might change my opinion if evidence were to be presented of this purported zip-tie scoring on stanchions.

mx_599

nope, no evidence. i wouldn't take apart to use O-ring either. i would use one when i service a fork. forks i have had on bicycles have not had the same hard coating as on my motorcycles...from my best guess. i know my reba forks, for instance, would not have as durable a coat.

you're absolutely right regarding the amount of time the hard zip tie is sliding around. i would still use an O-ring upon service. it is more professional

ViperZ

I like th elook of a clear/white Zip tie much more than an O-Ring.... At least with the Zip tie, it looks like you are doing some sort of R&D, where as the O-ring looks like your shock has blown a seal




I Keed, use what ever you like

mx_599

zip tie says to me "week-end warrior" doesn't know how to take fork apart...

seriously, i learned the Oring trick many years ago looking at pro-motocross set-ups in the pits.

i am sure dminor will vouch for me. but he probably uses zipties like everyone else. that is okay, i don't mind being in the minority. i tend to allow my life to take the road less traveled...for better or worse.

mx_599

i agree totally. those who have to look up motocross 101 tips online should use a zip-tie.

ViperZ

I like the O-Rings, but until I take my fork apart, or happen to have the right size on hand when I'm rebuilding my fork, the zip ties worked for me.

Besides, if somebody want's to think I'm a ""week-end warrior" doesn't know how to take fork apart..." because I'm using a zip tie, thats Ok, because they don't really know me

Gravity Worx

That's exactly right. ^^

It's funny.
I learned the zip tie method when riding ISDE. Actually picked it up from King Richards team mech at a race.

I think that if a person wants to call me a weekend warrior because I run the zip tie,
then maybe they have the issues or are just putting others down to make them selves look better.
Doesn't bother me either way.

ViperZ

Agreed