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Old 04-03-07, 07:51 PM   #1
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saddle problems

I finally dropped the cash last week on my first mountain bike, a Trek 4300. I love the bike but the saddle is causing some serious pain. I am debating if i should stick with it and see if it gets better as I ride more, if i should get a gel seat cover, or just get new saddle altogether. Any advise you could give would be appreciated.
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Old 04-03-07, 07:58 PM   #2
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You need to be more specific as to what kind of pain it's causing, because if it's as serious as you make it out to be it's probably just adjusted wrong.
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If you haven't been riding much prior to getting the bike, you might just need to start out slowly and get used to riding. However, a bad saddle can also be the problem. It couldn't hurt to replace the stock saddle with a nice WTB saddle. Do not buy a gel cover or any big fat gel seat if you intend to ride any distances at all. Another thing to look at is the angle of the saddle. For most people it should be parallel to the ground. Some people might suggest bike shorts, but they aren't really necessary for shorter rides and mostly help to eliminate chafing.
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Old 04-03-07, 08:06 PM   #4
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A pic of how you have your bike/seat setup would help greatly.

Other than that, get tow hatever shops are in your area, and try to sit on as many seats as you can to seewhat your butt likes.
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Old 04-03-07, 08:20 PM   #5
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It starts in less than a minute of when I start riding.

I'll post pics as soon as I can find my cable.
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usually nice shops will let you kinda "test ride" the saddle for a few days... heard this from wtb, in select shops you can literally check out their saddles like a book from the library.
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Old 04-03-07, 08:41 PM   #7
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here are the pics
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Need to lean her back a couple of degrees.
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You need to be more specific as to what kind of pain it's causing, because if it's as serious as you make it out to be it's probably just adjusted wrong.
That could be true seeing as when I test rode the bike I didn't have this kind of problem. How would I adjust it properly?

p.s. sorry for the newb question
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If I rode that bike, I'd either

a. slide off the front of the saddle
b. have tendonitis in my wrists from trying to hold my body up on it for the entire ride

Does this happen to you?

My saddle is pretty much level with the ground when you look at it. I had a Bonty saddle like that for a while and I actually ran it leaned "1 click" back because the nose of the saddle is so squishy.
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If I rode that bike, I'd either

a. slide off the front of the saddle
b. have tendonitis in my wrists from trying to hold my body up on it for the entire ride

Does this happen to you?

My saddle is pretty much level with the ground when you look at it. I had a Bonty saddle like that for a while and I actually ran it leaned "1 click" back because the nose of the saddle is so squishy.
I've only had the bike since Friday so tendinitis isn't an issue yet. I have not slid off the front saddle either. I'm adjusting the angle now and will give it a try again tomorrow if the snow holds out.
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Try a bit more forward on the rails, and tilted backa bit more, so that the seat rests more level.

Under the seat, on the post, you'll find a large allen head bolt. Most likely a 6mm head. Loosen that, move the seat, tighten it up. Ride. Repeat until things are more comfy for you.
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Old 04-03-07, 09:10 PM   #13
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Took it for a short test run (to the edge of the parking lot and back) and seemed slightly better but not much. I'll try for a longer run tomorrow. I don't know. Maybe my a$$ is just to fat for that skinny seat.
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Hey RedB, I've had the same bike for about 8 months. That saddle is the Bontrager Select or something similar. Anyways, I like the bike just fine, but that saddle is junk if you ask me. It caused me all kinds of pain and bruising. No adjustments fixed it. Possibly if I had waited longer it might have broken in more, but I bought a new saddle about a month later and it made a world of difference, no pain since. I think that saddle is just a very poor shape. I have a some friends with different bikes but the same saddle and none of them are happy with it either.
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Old 04-04-07, 02:16 AM   #15
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try this

I had a problem with the seats being too hard for a long or uneven ride.
Nashbar has some great seats for the money. I got one of the nashbar seats with the cut out center.
It is very comfortable and I can ride for hours. www.nashbar.com.:)

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Coming from a 4300 owner I used that same seat for about a year and finally replaced it with a WTB rocket V. I never really cared for the seat and noticed discomfort when spending time on the trainer this winter. Replace it with a WTB and you'll be happy.
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Are you wearing bike shorts with a chamois? If not then I highly recommend it. I couldn't imagine riding more than just a few miles without them. Spandex or baggies doesn't matter, the chamois is what is important. I've got 1,900 miles in so far this year and my butt still can't handle riding without them.
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Here you go........it works great for me but I am 5'9" 160 lbs and might not be great for everyone. I use it on my road and XC bike with over 1200 miles last year and have no problem at all but be sure to check the angle and height of the seat.

http://www.trisports.com/tnineopsadco.html
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Are you wearing bike shorts with a chamois? If not then I highly recommend it. I couldn't imagine riding more than just a few miles without them. Spandex or baggies doesn't matter, the chamois is what is important. I've got 1,900 miles in so far this year and my butt still can't handle riding without them.

I've always rode with just spandex under baggy shorts and after buying the WTB seat I finally broke down and got some lycra's with the chamois and a few pair of fox shorts with the chamois and it is a nice upgrade for the rear.... the big padded seat that came on my Trek never rubbed me the wrong way per say, but the WTB which is more comfy for long rides started to rub me so the new shorts are a must.
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ive been having the same problem on my rockhopper. the first 4 rides of my new bike i noticed no discomfort but the next time i went, i was out for over 6 hours riding and the seat started to take its toll on me. my inner thys are sore and red and its painful to sit on the saddle for me. my saddle looks just like your treks as far as shape and positioning.
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thinking about wearing these under my shorts. good deal?

http://backbaybicycles.com/itemdetai...gId=39&id=6757
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Are you wearing bike shorts with a chamois? If not then I highly recommend it. I couldn't imagine riding more than just a few miles without them. Spandex or baggies doesn't matter, the chamois is what is important. I've got 1,900 miles in so far this year and my butt still can't handle riding without them.
I used to be the same way before I moved to the city. Now that I commute ~100 miles a week, in pants/boxers, it doesn't bother me to skip the chamois. Taint of steel!

Road riding is still done in lycra though.
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I finally dropped the cash last week on my first mountain bike, a Trek 4300. I love the bike but the saddle is causing some serious pain. I am debating if i should stick with it and see if it gets better as I ride more, if i should get a gel seat cover, or just get new saddle altogether. Any advise you could give would be appreciated.
yep, we have 5 Treks...a Liquid, 7.5fx, 7500fx, 7300, and a 7600zx...all of the original seats are in the garbage

last year my wife forced me to swap seats with her 1 hour into her first ride on her new Trek...she didn't think that she could make it home on the Trek saddle.

also, stay away from those gel covers...they cause more problems
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No gel cover but the DeSoto Triatlon 5mm neoprene is just about perfect if you wear chamois shorts, also it really depends on your build and sit bones IMHO.

"The DeSoto neoprene saddle cover is ideal for providing additional comfort while racing or training. Made from 5mm neoprene, this high quality saddle cover is a must."
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Thanks for all the suggestions guys. Looks like it's time to start shopping for a new saddle.
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