Sunline v1 AM vs. Thomson X4
#1
.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: The Summit of Lee
Posts: 10,939
Bikes: Hecklah
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
Sunline v1 AM vs. Thomson X4
I'm going to get a shorter stem...I was wanting a Thomson X4 to match my post for the longest time until I saw the Sunline V1 All Mountain post. Whatchya think?
The price is not a real concern...the Sunline is $66 and the Thomson is $80.
They weigh about the same...Thomson is about 20g or so heavier.
The price is not a real concern...the Sunline is $66 and the Thomson is $80.
They weigh about the same...Thomson is about 20g or so heavier.
#2
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Boulderado
Posts: 1,474
Bikes: Intense SS, Old spesh P series, ski/snow bike, fixie conversion
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I've been dreaming of a Thomson X4 for a while now, but there is no way I would spend $80 to replace my Sycross Bearhug DH.
If you need a longer stem like the Thomson posted, I would get the Sunline. but if you need a nice short stem I would get the Thomson.
There is a huge difference in terms of looks between the different lengths.
If you need a longer stem like the Thomson posted, I would get the Sunline. but if you need a nice short stem I would get the Thomson.
There is a huge difference in terms of looks between the different lengths.
#3
Lost in the Black Hills
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 5,725
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
sunline!
__________________
Tomac Mountain Bikes | Light-Bikes l Magura USA | Industry Nine | Schwalbe Tires | Caffélatex
Tomac Mountain Bikes | Light-Bikes l Magura USA | Industry Nine | Schwalbe Tires | Caffélatex
#5
Te mortuo heres tibi sim?
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: East coast
Posts: 3,486
Bikes: hardtail, squishy, fixed roadie, fixed crosser
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
If you want to get one to match your Thomson post... why not get the Thomson stem...? Or, which one is going to be the better length for your fit? 10mm can make a difference.
I've only got a 50mm of the X-4, and am digging it. Granted, the shorter lengths are quite a bit different than the longer versions.
I bet the weight will be closer, if not the Thomson lighter for roughly the same sizes. Methinks that Sunline weight of 148gms is for the 50mm version. While the listed 166gms is for the 100mm Thomson.
I've only got a 50mm of the X-4, and am digging it. Granted, the shorter lengths are quite a bit different than the longer versions.
I bet the weight will be closer, if not the Thomson lighter for roughly the same sizes. Methinks that Sunline weight of 148gms is for the 50mm version. While the listed 166gms is for the 100mm Thomson.
#6
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Boulderado
Posts: 1,474
Bikes: Intense SS, Old spesh P series, ski/snow bike, fixie conversion
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by chelboed
I'll either get the 80mm Sunline or 90mm Thomson.
#7
.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: The Summit of Lee
Posts: 10,939
Bikes: Hecklah
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
Originally Posted by scrublover
If you want to get one to match your Thomson post... why not get the Thomson stem...? Or, which one is going to be the better length for your fit? 10mm can make a difference.
I've only got a 50mm of the X-4, and am digging it. Granted, the shorter lengths are quite a bit different than the longer versions.
I bet the weight will be closer, if not the Thomson lighter for roughly the same sizes. Methinks that Sunline weight of 148gms is for the 50mm version. While the listed 166gms is for the 100mm Thomson.
I've only got a 50mm of the X-4, and am digging it. Granted, the shorter lengths are quite a bit different than the longer versions.
I bet the weight will be closer, if not the Thomson lighter for roughly the same sizes. Methinks that Sunline weight of 148gms is for the 50mm version. While the listed 166gms is for the 100mm Thomson.
I'm not so sure that I agree about 10mm making much difference in my situation. I can see your situation running a 50mm...10mm would make quite a bit of difference. I'm running a 105mm Easton and the jump to 90 or 80 would be equally welcome. I used to think my cockpit felt short when I had a hardtail and switched back and forth between the two. Now that I only have 1 bike...it feels normal. When my 1 bike was down for repairs for 2 weeks...I borrowed a POS rigid MTB with a pretty short/upright cockpit. Now that I'm back to mine...it feels pretty roomy. I know that whether I choose 80 or 90mm...I'll get accustomed to it and it will feel normal.
I think I've pretty much made up my mind. I just can't find any reviews on them anywhere.
Last edited by ed; 04-09-07 at 04:45 AM.
#8
Lost in the Black Hills
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 5,725
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by chelboed
I don't necessarily want to match my Thomson post exactly...right now I have an EAfiddy. I just thought it'd be cool to have a Thomson to match my post if I were going go get a shorter stem. Now that I see the Sunline...I'm not quite as concerned about matching it exactly. I the the Sunline looks pretty tough in comparison. I like the style.
I'm not so sure that I agree about 10mm making much difference in my situation. I can see your situation running a 50mm...10mm would make quite a bit of difference. I'm running a 105mm Easton and the jump to 90 or 80 would be equally welcome. I used to think my cockpit felt short when I had a hardtail and switched back and forth between the two. Now that I only have 1 bike...it feels normal. When my 1 bike was down for repairs for 2 weeks...I borrowed a POS rigid MTB with a pretty short/upright cockpit. Now that I'm back to mine...it feels pretty roomy. I know that whether I choose 80 or 90mm...I'll get accustomed to it and it will feel normal.
I think I've pretty much made up my mind. I just can't find any reviews on them anywhere.
I'm not so sure that I agree about 10mm making much difference in my situation. I can see your situation running a 50mm...10mm would make quite a bit of difference. I'm running a 105mm Easton and the jump to 90 or 80 would be equally welcome. I used to think my cockpit felt short when I had a hardtail and switched back and forth between the two. Now that I only have 1 bike...it feels normal. When my 1 bike was down for repairs for 2 weeks...I borrowed a POS rigid MTB with a pretty short/upright cockpit. Now that I'm back to mine...it feels pretty roomy. I know that whether I choose 80 or 90mm...I'll get accustomed to it and it will feel normal.
I think I've pretty much made up my mind. I just can't find any reviews on them anywhere.
sunline!
be one of the first on here to have one. then you can review it over at mtbr. it's just a stem, i'm sure it will work great. i like the way their fugly products look too...ever since dminor posted that "catalog"
__________________
Tomac Mountain Bikes | Light-Bikes l Magura USA | Industry Nine | Schwalbe Tires | Caffélatex
Tomac Mountain Bikes | Light-Bikes l Magura USA | Industry Nine | Schwalbe Tires | Caffélatex
Last edited by mx_599; 04-09-07 at 05:17 AM.
#10
Te mortuo heres tibi sim?
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: East coast
Posts: 3,486
Bikes: hardtail, squishy, fixed roadie, fixed crosser
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by chelboed
I think I've pretty much made up my mind...
Me, I think the Sunline is kinda' fugly compared to the Thomson.
And yeah, its' just a stem. Similar bar and steer tube clamps. I can't imagine one being functionally really any better than the other.
Last edited by scrublover; 04-09-07 at 05:27 AM.
#11
Lost in the Black Hills
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 5,725
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by chelboed
Yup...that's when I took notice too.
__________________
Tomac Mountain Bikes | Light-Bikes l Magura USA | Industry Nine | Schwalbe Tires | Caffélatex
Tomac Mountain Bikes | Light-Bikes l Magura USA | Industry Nine | Schwalbe Tires | Caffélatex
#12
Lost in the Black Hills
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 5,725
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by scrublover
Hell, then if it's just based mostly on the aesthetics, then yeah, get whichever one looks best to you. sounds like you're sold on the Sunline. That's what some part purchases end up about in the end!
Me, I think the Sunline is kinda' fugly compared tot he Thomson.
And yeah, its' just a stem. Similar bar and steer tube clamps. I can't imagine one being functionally really any better than the other.
Me, I think the Sunline is kinda' fugly compared tot he Thomson.
And yeah, its' just a stem. Similar bar and steer tube clamps. I can't imagine one being functionally really any better than the other.
__________________
Tomac Mountain Bikes | Light-Bikes l Magura USA | Industry Nine | Schwalbe Tires | Caffélatex
Tomac Mountain Bikes | Light-Bikes l Magura USA | Industry Nine | Schwalbe Tires | Caffélatex
#14
Te mortuo heres tibi sim?
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: East coast
Posts: 3,486
Bikes: hardtail, squishy, fixed roadie, fixed crosser
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by chelboed
I like fugly...my bike is a fugly dugling.
I can't imagine it being a bad stem in any way.
#15
Moar cowbell
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: The 509
Posts: 12,481
Bikes: Bike list is not a resume. Nobody cares.
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 29 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times
in
5 Posts
Sunline!Sunline!Sunline! . . . or Syncros
__________________
RST Suspension | Canfield Bikes | 7iDP Protection | Maxxis | Renthal | Hayes | VonZipper Optics | GoPro
Originally Posted by Mark Twain
"Don't argue with stupid people; they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."
#16
Official Website Waterboy
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 3,271
Bikes: a lot
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I used to have a Funn Serial Killa Stem on a bike it was short and low rise and I loved the look and the way the bike responded with it. Don't think they still make them though
#18
Moar cowbell
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: The 509
Posts: 12,481
Bikes: Bike list is not a resume. Nobody cares.
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 29 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times
in
5 Posts
If you really want the bling thing, get the Syncros FR
. . . or AM
. . . or AM
__________________
RST Suspension | Canfield Bikes | 7iDP Protection | Maxxis | Renthal | Hayes | VonZipper Optics | GoPro
Originally Posted by Mark Twain
"Don't argue with stupid people; they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."
#19
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Boulderado
Posts: 1,474
Bikes: Intense SS, Old spesh P series, ski/snow bike, fixie conversion
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
^^^Did they just change the name of the Bearhug HD to Syncros FR. Mine looks identical to the FR but all black...
Edid: Oh wait, the clamping is all different.
Edid: Oh wait, the clamping is all different.
#20
Moar cowbell
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: The 509
Posts: 12,481
Bikes: Bike list is not a resume. Nobody cares.
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 29 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times
in
5 Posts
Originally Posted by FreeRidin'
^^^Did they just change the name of the Bearhug HD to Syncros FR. Mine looks identical to the FR but all black...
[IMG]snip[/IMG]
Edid: Oh wait, the clamping is all different.
[IMG]snip[/IMG]
Edid: Oh wait, the clamping is all different.
__________________
RST Suspension | Canfield Bikes | 7iDP Protection | Maxxis | Renthal | Hayes | VonZipper Optics | GoPro
Originally Posted by Mark Twain
"Don't argue with stupid people; they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."
#21
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Boulderado
Posts: 1,474
Bikes: Intense SS, Old spesh P series, ski/snow bike, fixie conversion
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by dminor
And I'm not quite sure why. I liked the hidden fasteners idea. I'll have to ask Marshall why he changed that.
#22
Moar cowbell
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: The 509
Posts: 12,481
Bikes: Bike list is not a resume. Nobody cares.
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 29 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times
in
5 Posts
Originally Posted by FreeRidin'
Well the name change was for the better...bearhug hd doesn't sound too gnarly.
__________________
RST Suspension | Canfield Bikes | 7iDP Protection | Maxxis | Renthal | Hayes | VonZipper Optics | GoPro
Originally Posted by Mark Twain
"Don't argue with stupid people; they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."