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    Hardrock vs Rockhopper

    I am wondering the differences between these two bikes such as geometry, weight, what style of riding they can be used for, etc. I'm thinking of the base level Rockhopper and the Hardrock Comp Disc as they are very close in price. Hoping to buy my first mtb later this year and am exploring all avenues.

    Thanks any opinion offered.
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    so basically the consensus is that there is no consensus but everyone is sure they are right.

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    I love them both *claps*
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    Quote Originally Posted by kandnhome
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    Thank. you.

    If everyone just used the search feature to read up, there would be no new threads. I was interested to see if there were people that had ridden both extensively who might chime in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dial_tone
    so basically the consensus is that there is no consensus but everyone is sure they are right.

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    I've only test ridden them, but since no experienced Hardrock vs. RH people have replied I'll toss in my $0.02: the RH seems more suited for light XC and road riding. Like long dirt roads or long light to medium xc riding. very few jumps and drops.

    the Hardrock seems to be built also for XC but takes a very small weight penalty to be built beefier. It has a beefier frame and a little bit more of a DJ style frame. It's still an XC bike but would be able to go do a few dirt jumps and larger drops than the Rockhopper.

    I could be horribly wrong, that's just my opinion from shopping around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlh122
    The RH seems more suited for light XC and road riding. Like long dirt roads or long light to medium xc riding. very few jumps and drops.

    The Hardrock seems to be built also for XC but takes a very small weight penalty to be built beefier. It has a beefier frame and a little bit more of a DJ style frame. It's still an XC bike but would be able to go do a few dirt jumps and larger drops than the Rockhopper.
    This is absolutely correct. Both are great bikes; the RH is lighter, but the HR is beefier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlh122

    I could be horribly wrong, that's just my opinion from shopping around.

    "the RH seems more suited for light XC and road riding."

    you are hottibly wrong.

    dont make that kind of comments on a bike just based on shopping around. ride them.

    "the Hardrock seems to be built also for XC but takes a very small weight penalty to be built beefier. It has a beefier frame and a little bit more of a DJ style frame. It's still an XC bike but would be able to go do a few dirt jumps and larger drops than the Rockhopper."

    your observation is pretty correct here.

    I have ridden both. Hardrock for a shotr period of time and rockhopper for 2 years before it got stolen. There is very little difference between the Rockhopper and Hardrock frames. the Rockhopper is set up more like a trail/XC bike and its really versatile for its price.

    on the other hand, Hardrock is designed for entry level new riders. with more like a dirt jump, urban stunt, little bit trail...riding styel....Hardrock is the bike you start off with and figure out which side of mountian biking spectrum you would want to be...when you figured out...you buy either a XC, dirt jump, Freeride, Urban assault, or a trail bike. so, Hardrock is for figuring it out then Rockhopper, stumpjumper etc are bikes for specific needs trail/AM or pure XC...

    The reason people think Hardrocks are so tough because, Hardrock is the bike to transition from X-mart or huffy bike to a decent quality bike...so the progression is...when you go from a Huffy to a Hardrock..the difference is huge..but when you go from a Hardrock to a rockhopper...the difference is in the detail...but, new riders often get confused about the detail...

    so, the bottom line is....if you are a new rider and want to do a little bit of every thing...Hardrock is probably a good choice...but if you want to do trail riding with better trail performance and handling, Rockhopper is the better bike of these two...

    hope this helps...
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    am i ok riding a rockhopper on the road as well as trail? btw - thanks for that writeup

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    Lots of people around here ride or have ridden rockhoppers, myself included. I havent heard of any cracked or broken frames yet. I wouldnt call the RH frame light duty, it can take beating.

    Put it this way, your body will quit before the frame does.

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    the thing is we are doing too much research and not much riding...

    come on, its a mountian bike.....some people act like if you take a "XC" bike to the hills, the bike will disintegrate....mind you, there are hills in XC riding and hills usually means some down hills sections too...people all around the world are riding XC tails with simple lightweight hard tail bikes with less than 100mm travel, just fine....its us, who are typing too much and not riding in real situations are having these theoretical debates...

    Rockhopper is a versatile bike...yes you can ride it on roads, trails, etc..yes it has its limits....but the implication that it has to be riddent on flat ground with no rocks or roots or you will not be able to do any jumps or bunny hops..is simply rediculous...


    go ride it like you stole it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flak

    Put it this way, your body will quit before the frame does.
    there you go. THANK YOU FLAK...
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    Good thing you're thinking about the Comp Disc instead of the Sport because the forks SUCK on it. I do agree that the Hardrock will be able to take a beating, but it isn't the lightest bike ever.
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    Thanks for the replies everyone, exactly what I wanted. From what sherpaPeak is saying, sounds like an HR might be better for me as I'm not sure exactly what riding I will be doing. From checking the trail reviews on mtbr.com the riding seems to be quite varied around here in Vegas.

    I did some reading of old threads last night and I gather from these that at this pricepoint Specialized as slightly lesser components on their bikes but better frames, compared to say Trek or other brands.
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    so basically the consensus is that there is no consensus but everyone is sure they are right.

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    I dont think thats really the case. I think all the manufacturers make good frames bar the Trek Bruiser.

    I wonder how many brands still roll off the giant factory line these days?

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    Search to find the best thread ever! http://bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=297907
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker66
    Search to find the best thread ever! http://bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=297907
    Funny you mentioned that. I was just searching for "perfect birthday party hat" and that thread came up. Small world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Fagerlin
    Why?
    Because.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dial_tone
    so basically the consensus is that there is no consensus but everyone is sure they are right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kandnhome
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    I had a rockhopper frame...really sturdy. I had a hardrock too...I would take the rockhopper over the hardrock any day.
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    I went to a store today to check prices, $550 for the Hardrock comp. Oddly, I didnt see a Rockhopper although I was short on time. The salesperson pretty much repeated what sherpaPeak said earlier in the thread with regard to it being a newbie/versatile bike. Now I just have to make a decision and pay for it

    edit: The Rockhopper has the RockShox Dart 3 SL fork, the Hardrock Comp an RST Gilla Plus RA fork.....which is the better fork? Or similar quality?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dial_tone
    so basically the consensus is that there is no consensus but everyone is sure they are right.

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    Rockshox is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minesbroken
    I had a rockhopper frame...really sturdy. I had a hardrock too...I would take the rockhopper over the hardrock any day.


    Care to explain why? I returned my new Hardrock and spent an extra $120 on a RH and could use some rationalization to sleep better

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    Quote Originally Posted by SD Fixed
    Ass. Clown.
    Oh. Really?

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    Specialized Hardrock vs Rockhopper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Fagerlin
    Fixed it for you.
    Thanks, very kind. Now take your other thread nazi kandnhome with you and quit bothering people who might actually want to discuss something.... even if it is something that has been done before many times. Seriously, if its not something that interests you, dont read it.

    Thanks again.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dial_tone
    so basically the consensus is that there is no consensus but everyone is sure they are right.

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