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Old 05-23-07, 02:17 PM   #1
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Cadillac AM2.4 at Costco for $720, good deal or not?

The other Cadillac RLE1.8 deal at Costco is very good according to members here, however I couldn't find any information about the AM2.4.

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...opnav=&browse=

I don't know much about Mountain bike components, is this deal as good as the RLE1.8 or just normal price? I'm thinking about buying this one. Any feedback please?
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Old 05-23-07, 02:29 PM   #2
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that link is not working.

I am very curious about these bikes.....lets see what people think...

this one comes with a decent set of components....interesting

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11210770&search=bicycles&Sp=S&Mo=100&cm_re=1-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&N=0&whse=BC&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=All &Dr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ne=4000000&D=bicycles&Ntt=bicycles&No=4&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=& s=1
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Old 05-23-07, 03:05 PM   #3
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I'm thinking any of the bikes branded after a car are basically crap. Maybe not Wallyworld crap, but still... Cadillac, Jeep, Mercedes, Porche whatever. You want a Caddy... get the car. You want a bike... get a bike brand.
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Old 05-23-07, 03:32 PM   #4
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The parts may be ok, but what concerns me is the frame.
  • Cadillac didn't make it (duh)
  • There's no mention of who did
  • There's no warranty information
  • No mention of what shock is on it
  • 6005 Aluminum? Usually brand name frames that use 6000 series aluminum use 6061. This may be a minor concern, but it makes me curious.
That plus with it not being a bike shop bike you have no way of knowing who assembled it (or how well), and you lack the free tuneup(s) that any reputable shop would offer.
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Frame: Custom designed 6005 aluminum frame. The AM2.4 offers a perfect balance of a stiff yet smooth ride. The frame includes 4-5-6” adjustable travel, a replaceable derailleur hanger and water bottle mounts
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Fork: Rock Shox Reba with Lock out
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Drive-train: Shimano Deore LX rear derailleur , Alivio front derailleur, Truvative Fire 42/32/22. The rear cassette is an 11-32 and this combination of gearing will give the rider all the gearing they need to climb even the tallest hills
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Wheels: Alex Vectra D2 Disk wheels are Lightweight and stiff
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Saddle: Custom Cadillac design with cro-moly rails and the Cadillac Wreath and Crest logo

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Color: Custom Cadillac Black and silver
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Frame: Custom designed 6005 aluminum with 4-5-6” adjustable travel
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Fork: Rock Shox Reba SL with Lock out 100 mm of travel
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Headset: Cane Creek alloy 1-1/8 Black integrated
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Rear Derailleur: Shimano Deore LX
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Tires: Kenda Nevegal 26 x 2.35
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The link works just fine.
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It says something in there about the Logo being licensed to Kent. I wonder if they made the frame.
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It says something in there about the Logo being licensed to Kent. I wonder if they made the frame.
Good eye. I missed that he first time through.

That pretty much cements it for me. Kent hasn't sold a decent (non licensed brand) bike in quite some time. It might be worthwhile to strip the bike and go eBaying, but I can't suggest buying it for use.
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I'm thinking any of the bikes branded after a car are basically crap. Maybe not Wallyworld crap, but still... Cadillac, Jeep, Mercedes, Porche whatever. You want a Caddy... get the car. You want a bike... get a bike brand.
Sorry. Couldn't resist.

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The other Cadillac RLE1.8 deal at Costco is very good according to members here, however I couldn't find any information about the AM2.4.

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...opnav=&browse=

I don't know much about Mountain bike components, is this deal as good as the RLE1.8 or just normal price? I'm thinking about buying this one. Any feedback please?
Go for it...its an outstanding deal...great frame (imported from Taiwan), fantastic build at this price

Don't worry about the name...the mfg pays a small royalty to GM to use the name and logo...its part of their marketing strategy to attract people who would not normally ride these bikes, mostly middle class suburbanites

The AM 2.4 blows away bikes that cost twice as much...our lbs in Canada can't keep them in stock (and they cost twice as much up here)

see:

http://www.cadillacbicycles.com/ca_about.html
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Frame: Custom designed 6005 aluminum frame.
custom designed for who?

the only question mark is the frame really. The components are fine.
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custom designed for who?

the only question mark is the frame really. The components are fine.
Its an imported frame that's used by several mfg's...cadillac offers a lifetime frame warranty, though...better than most bike makers
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marketing strategy to attract people who would not normally ride these bikes, mostly middle class suburbanites
I don't see any "middle class suburbanites" driving caddies.. mostly geriatric, legally blind, WWII generation guys.
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I don't see any "middle class suburbanites" driving caddies.. mostly geriatric, legally blind, WWII generation guys.
nope...that group drives Buicks
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nope...that group drives Buicks
Let me guess, you drive a cadillac?
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Sorry. Couldn't resist.

Ahhhh... but that's a COLNAGO Ferrari. Bike maker first... car brand second.

Co-branded, not plain branded!
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The link sherpaPeak posted is the slightly higher price and better model 2.7 compare to the one I listed 2.4

Anyway, I bought the road bike RLE1.8 in Costco instead at $650 after tax because I already have a MTB that I bought off Craigslist few months ago. It's Canondale Killer V400 for only $250, my current and only bike for commuting. It's so hard to resist though, but I don't have $1400 to buy both road and MTB at the same time.

Edit: Off-topic, just found an ads: Med size top of the line Klein Mantra Race 27 speed full suspension mountain bike. Carbon fiber frame and rear swing arm, Manitou Ti front shock, Fox Vanilla race rear shock, XT brake levers, Power brakes, shifters, cranks and front deraileur. XTR rear deraileur, Thompson Elite seat post, Specialized race body geometry leather saddle, Bontrager Race Lite wheels, Bontrager AC Jonse tires, Bontrager X-lite handle bar, Serfas The fenders and Time carbon pedals. This bike is only around 25 lbs and is in excellent condition. Don't have time to ride anymore. Was over $3000 when new and now asking less than half. Asking $1295.00.

Any opinion about the component? I'm trying to negotiate at $1000, if he agrees to sell it, I'd cancel the order with the road bike and get this one.

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I think we're quibbling here.

First off, shock: appears to be a Rock Shox BAR 2.1
Frame: maybe it came from Kent, but it's probably actually made by one of a handful of 'catalog' mfrs in Taiwan , like Kinesis. So what?
6005 frame: May just be a typo and is 7005. However, 6005 has the same modulus of elasticity, a higher tensile strength and over double the shear-strength of 6061. Just because most of us are unfamiliar with the specific properties of 6005 does not make it suspect.

Hey, full suspension for under 1k? - -isn't that supposed to be the unachieveable price-point for something that's not dept. store junk? I say go for it.
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I think we're quibbling here.

First off, shock: appears to be a Rock Shox BAR 2.1
Frame: maybe it came from Kent, but it's probably actually made by one of a handful of 'catalog' mfrs in Taiwan , like Kinesis. So what?
6005 frame: May just be a typo and is 7005. However, 6005 has the same modulus of elasticity, a higher tensile strength and over double the shear-strength of 6061. Just because most of us are unfamiliar with the specific properties of 6005 does not make it suspect.

Hey, full suspension for under 1k? - -isn't that supposed to be the unachieveable price-point for something that's not dept. store junk? I say go for it.
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I think we're quibbling here.

First off, shock: appears to be a Rock Shox BAR 2.1
Frame: maybe it came from Kent, but it's probably actually made by one of a handful of 'catalog' mfrs in Taiwan , like Kinesis. So what?
6005 frame: May just be a typo and is 7005. However, 6005 has the same modulus of elasticity, a higher tensile strength and over double the shear-strength of 6061. Just because most of us are unfamiliar with the specific properties of 6005 does not make it suspect.

Hey, full suspension for under 1k? - -isn't that supposed to be the unachieveable price-point for something that's not dept. store junk? I say go for it.
it says 6061 here

http://www.abikestore.com/Merchant2/...t_Code=mb_am24
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i dunno... if it was a hardtail i would be less cautious about the name. although it looks kind of like kona's(and others) rear sus. design, i would bet that it is a terrible system similar to those found on a walmart bike. the saying "you get what you pay for" seems especially applicable here

edit: though i like the idea of stripping the bike and finding another frame
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Although it appears to be decently spec'd, I think this one is slightly better spec'd: http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...ds07RRLOCK.htm

Yes, yes. I know, it's a bikes direct bike, but still, it's hard to argue the spec for slightly more cash. Heck it could be the same damn frame for all we know. Never mind that, different shock mount location...
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To get that bike to 33lbs, that frame must weigh about 10lbs. Holy Smokes!!!!
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