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    Upgrade a '97 Specialized M2 or get a new bike?

    A guy on one of the car forums I frequent has a 1997 Specialized M2 hardtail spec'ed as shown below. When he first asked about upgrading the bike he was only looking into gettin a wheelset. I told him that a wheelset is fine mainly because he will be able to use this on any future bikes. I recommended he get a wheelset built up with disc-compatible hubs and rim-brake rims if he wanted to go down that route.

    Afterwards he started talking about getting a new Fox fork. At this point I realized he doesn't want to let go of this bike probably because he paid decent money for it back in the day but I then started telling him that he could probably get a decent current hardtail for $1200-1500, about what he was going to be dropping on the wheelset and fork.

    Again, the fork can be moved onto a newer bike but I'm now questioning whether he should be pouring this money into a 10-year old bike. As it stands it weighs 27lbs. I think a new wheelset will save him about 1-2 lbs (his weights include cassette). The new fork won't save him any weight because a Fox fork will weigh about 1600g but he would be improving on the fork.

    So what are your thoughts? I don't think he would be losing anything with a new fork and wheelset but I also think a whole new bike may get him what he's after. BTW, his intended use is for XC and he wants to get into racing. I'm unfamiliar with these 10 year old bikes. Are they worth upgrading for what he wants to do or should he go with something current?

    Here are his specs. He weighed the components. The first figure is in grams, the second figure is in pounds:
    Frame Specialized Stumpjumper M2 ('97) 17'' includes all the rest where it says 0 grams. 4409 9.721845
    Fork Manitou Answer Pro X 3.4 lb's 1587 3.499335
    Headset Aheadset 49 0.108045
    Stem Specialized 217 0.478485
    Handlebar Ritchey Forcelite (claimed 170g) 183 0.403515
    Grips Specialized 67 0.147735
    Support L Handles Gary Fisher 149 0.328545
    Brake Levers Avid SD - 1.9L 185 0.407925
    Shift Levers 3 Gear select Shimano LX (97) 93 0.205065
    Shift Levers Rear Cassette Shimano LX (97) 98 0.21609
    Brakes Front Avid SD - 1.9L 182 0.40131
    Brakes Back Avid SD - 1.9L 0
    Wheelset Front Mavics 238 (559 X 17.606) 1708 3.76614
    Wheelset Rear Mavics 238 (559 X 17.606) 2345 5.170725
    Tubes Kendal Kwickseal 26 X 1.25 (432g) 0
    Tyres Maxxis Ignitor 26 x2.10 (1230g) 0
    QR 0
    BB 0
    Crankset 0
    Pedals Shimano 747's 0
    Chain Shimano 0
    Casette Shimano 422 0.93051
    F. Derailer Shimano LX (97) 0
    R. Derailer Shimano XT (97) 0
    Seatpost Ritchey 229 0.504945
    Seat Clamp
    Specialized 86 0.18963
    Seatpost Clamp Specialized 34 0.07497
    Saddle Specialized 282 0.62181
    Cables (sh &br) 0
    Bottle Cage Generic 70 0.15435
    TOTAL 12395 27.33098
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    In the past I would have recommended new, however, after our friend Patriot's retro rebuild with the Pink and green, I say open the can-o-worms. Show him this picture!

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    yep, new bike.
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    Thanks Santiago for posting this. I will be definetely keeping my bike.

    In the past I would have recommended new, however, after our friend Patriot's retro rebuild with the Pink and green, I say open the can-o-worms. Show him this picture!
    Did he post the specs on his bike curious what it weighs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colombiano View Post
    Thanks Santiago for posting this. I will be definetely keeping my bike.

    Did he post the specs on his bike curious what it weighs.
    Here is the thread but I warn you to not go there!
    Goin' Retro!!!

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    My wife has a mango S-works M2 which is about the same age, and although the frame and most of the components are still fine, it's probably better and cheaper to get her a new bike.
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