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    Dual Crown, QR, V-Brakes - Is There Such A Fork

    Looking to upgrade the Rock Shox Judy DHO on my '97 GT LTS DH. It looks like most dual crown forks these days use the 20mm axle - are there any that use just QR hubs? Furthermore, I would like to stick with V-Brakes as the rear wheel will only ever be running V-Brakes.

    Thanks, Mark.

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    Good luck finding something like that, nothing remotely like that has been made since 2004 with the Marzocchi Drop Off Triple, and those were piles. Ever think of going to a longer travel single crown?
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    Thanks for the response. Pathetic I know, but I like the look of the dual crown. If I changed to the 20mm hub, are there V-Brake options?

    Regards, Mark.

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    I've got a sweet little Judy XLC that only got three seasons use and is in great condition. Trouble is, it's not that much different than you DHO

    Closest I can tell you is to look for a 'gently-used' RST Alfalfa 6" dual crown. They made QR adapters that went in the 20mm axle holes. No v-brake bosses though so you'd have to go disc.

    Best advice is to go with Smashy's and look at the new generation of longer single-crowns.

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    or don't run v's on a bike like that...
    You can pick up an avid mechanical for like $60 pretty easily. Never heard of anyone complaining of too much stopping power up front, so the switch isn't that big a deal. Problem solved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeCanon View Post
    or don't run v's on a bike like that...
    You can pick up an avid mechanical for like $60 pretty easily. Never heard of anyone complaining of too much stopping power up front, so the switch isn't that big a deal. Problem solved.
    yeah and spend another fortune on a wheelset?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenLi View Post
    yeah and spend another fortune on a wheelset?
    Why would he have to buy another wheelset?

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    you could just buy a new disc compatible hub and pay around 30-40 to have it laced up to your rim, depending on how much your shop costs. OR just buy a front wheel? your front wheel does like 80% of your stopping or something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gastro View Post
    Why would he have to buy another wheelset?
    because his current wheel is probably v-only.

    You can pick up a decent front wheel on ebay for very cheap. You could probably pick up a brake and wheel for under $150. It would be a good investment, I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeCanon View Post
    because his current wheel is probably v-only.

    You can pick up a decent front wheel on ebay for very cheap. You could probably pick up a brake and wheel for under $150. It would be a good investment, I think.
    +1, you might even be able to buy from a store and still be under 150

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeCanon View Post
    because his current wheel is probably v-only.

    You can pick up a decent front wheel on ebay for very cheap. You could probably pick up a brake and wheel for under $150. It would be a good investment, I think.
    Why would he have to buy another wheelset?

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    Start Googling and be happy with well used:

    Manitou X-Vert
    Noleen Chubby
    Girvin Pipeline Chubby
    Cannondale Headshok Moto
    RST Hi Five

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    Here's a couple on ebay:


    http://cgi.ebay.com/Noleen-Chubby-LT...ayphotohosting


    http://cgi.ebay.com/Specialized-FSR-...QQcmdZViewItem

    You'd have to ask the seller to split them up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumba View Post
    And those are better than the DHO... how???

    When did I say they were better than a DHO? I'm sure people like options when they're beginning to purchase a piece of crap. There are different flavors of crap. Some salty, some bitter...all crap, but at least you're blinded into thinking the choices matter in some way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chelboed View Post
    An interesting aside note: The Noleen Chubby was a contract-manufactured fork for Noleen by RST. It was the same thing as a RST Delta HL. It had air-damping through an orifice setup that I guess actually worked. The Delta series (HL - -air-dampened; TL - - coil/mcu and oil and XL - - coil and oil) were vastly-improved successors to the ill-fated Hi-5 that got pulled from the market due to a CPSC recall.

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    Hey, thanks for all the replies. I'm trying to keep to the "look" of the original LTS DH, hence the dual crown / V-brakes preference. Money is not a huge issue (within reason). I'm not comfortable pulling apart the DHO shock, so was looking for something slightly more recent that could a) be serviced by someone other than I or b) would have parts and manuals available, and I would have more confidence in pulling apart.

    I will Google the options that Zumba advised and check out whether I would feel comfortable servicing these forks.

    Thanks again for all your thoughts and opinions.

    Regards, Mark.

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    hi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumba View Post
    OP stated: "Looking to upgrade the Rock Shox Judy DHO on my '97 GT LTS DH."

    What he's looking for no longer exists.

    It's too bad that he's so stubborn. He could get a wicked 140mm single crown Fox fork.
    Well if you would just tell me what he said so I don't have to read it...dang!

    (Fox 32 Vanilla RLC...but then he'd have to upgr. the rear shock too, hehe)

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    Is that fork compatible with V brakes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dminor View Post
    An interesting aside note: The Noleen Chubby was a contract-manufactured fork for Noleen by RST. It was the same thing as a RST Delta HL. It had air-damping through an orifice setup that I guess actually worked. The Delta series (HL - -air-dampened; TL - - coil/mcu and oil and XL - - coil and oil) were vastly-improved successors to the ill-fated Hi-5 that got pulled from the market due to a CPSC recall.
    I had an RST Delta HL on my Haro V3, it was very light compared to what was on there originally and strong. You may still find them new on Ebay, it could take a while. They work OK, not great but OK and its unlikely you'll break one. I liked the way it worked but I like the way my Marzocchi Dirt Jam Pro works too, of the two I think I preferred the RST, but that just may be happy memories of a good frame/fork combo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumba View Post
    OP stated: "Looking to upgrade the Rock Shox Judy DHO on my '97 GT LTS DH."

    What he's looking for no longer exists.

    It's too bad that he's so stubborn. He could get a wicked 140mm single crown Fox fork.
    He could also find a Nixon with a little searching that would work well for him.........but DC forks "look cool"
    and that's what really counts.
    Like a circus monkey on a stolen Harley......

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker66 View Post
    He could also find a Nixon with a little searching
    No searching necessary. Here are 7 of them from $199-$349:

    http://www.greenfishsports.com/index...S&Category=266

    Which one U got?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chelboed View Post
    No searching necessary. Here are 7 of them from $199-$349:

    http://www.greenfishsports.com/index...S&Category=266

    Which one U got?
    See how easy we make it for the rest of the world.....

    I don't have any of those but the Urban Camo "looks really cool".
    Like a circus monkey on a stolen Harley......

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker66 View Post
    See how easy we make it for the rest of the world.....
    I was feeling nice

    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker66 View Post
    I don't have any of those but the Urban Camo "looks really cool".
    Yeah...if it was a TA, I'd prob. buy it.

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