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Old 09-07-03, 01:55 AM   #1
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Freeride Photos!

ok, so i always complain about how the riders in Europe are so fit and can climb so well, but have no technical/downhill skills...

well i met a group of "Freeriders" here in Munich and went riding with one on Saturday and we rode some wicked hiking trails.

as i expected, Michi was pretty slow on the uphills and my friend Robert and I waited on him quite a bit... but he always made it and rode the whole 1800 meters (6000 ft) of vertical for the day - although he kept wishing for the lift. then we took a break and he broke out a cigarette which i have neevr seen on a MTB ride...

we rode 3 downhill trails: the first a nice but not so crazy trail i've ridden twice (400m and then we climbed another trail back up - very steep - i was not "fit" and my friend Robert kicked my butt going uphill), then a SUPER crazy steep hiking trail (750m, 600m of trail), then another climb and finally 400m of steep trail...

at the beginning of the first trail, Michi says "i'll wait for you guys" and heads off... i follow (excited that i am for once not in the lead as i usually am) thinking "we'll see..." --- oh, i ride an XC bike with only 80mm of travel and it is so rare that someone here ride super-techincal stuff, so i think it is fair that he assumed he would be waiting, but...

he can really ride, but after the first third of the trail he dismounted for a few drops that i rode and i kept catching up to him, so i switched to the front. but he can really ride and we had a great time doing drops and then stopping, climbing back up and trying again...

i should have taken more photos, but we were having too much fun riding!

the first photo here: my first attempt (i stopped before the last drop):
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then michi tried... he bailed at the same spot.
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then i just did it! i rode with a lot more speed (notice the photo is a little blury). the last drop is much bigger than it looks! because of the roots we couldn't ride the "good" line to the right but decided to drop the middle... i pulled the rear, but i still touched the rings, but it worked!
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then came a cool small narrow gravel section that drops off to the side... and then comes to some long stairs...
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the gravel and the drop-off to the side made the stairs that aren't THAT steep really interesting!
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and watch that rock on the left -- on my first attempt my handlebar met the rock! which made for a scary dismount!
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and Michi on another drop -- the picture doesn't do it justice...

anyway, it was a good warm-up for my EXTREME downhill trails the first weekend of October in Lake Garda!!!!
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i should have taken more photos, but we were having too much fun riding!
ThanX for taking and sharing the pix you did take! I love cooool pix!!!!
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Nice pics. Looks like a great trail.

I would how ever like to see them droping from that rock in the fourth picture before they get to the stairs to truly call them "Freeriders"


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Looks like trail riding to me, but nice pics anyways.
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are you guys using clipless or regular pedals?
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Looks very technical... and very good fun thx for the pics
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Yeah, that looks way fun! What specialized bikes you guys have. Sorry my skills at telling from the pics are not that great.
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That looks like a fun area with lots to play on. I could session that section in and around the top, a few drops, with the right angle you mihgt even be able to launch off that rock to the left at the top and use the stair like a landing, but like that would end up hurting ...

Sweet area.
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Yeah, that looks way fun! What specialized bikes you guys have. Sorry my skills at telling from the pics are not that great.
i've got a '02 Specialized FSR XC Comp with a Fox RL Float fork - 80mm. i just ordered a salsa Chainring gaurd... i like the challenge of not having a lot of suspension, but i think i am pushing the limits of my bike...

the other guy has a Specialized Enduro with a Bomber 130mm Fork.
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are you guys using clipless or regular pedals?
he's got platforms. i have clipless (eggbeaters). he was telling me i should try out some flat pedals... i'm thinking about it but i have been riding clipless so long i am really used to it... but i think i am getting to the point where platforms would make more sense...

anyone got any comments? or switched or whatever?
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Nathank, what kind of helmets are you wearing? I like them a lot and i am on the lookout for a trailriding fullface helmet. NICEEEE pics
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Looks like trail riding to me, but nice pics anyways.
hmm... well what is the real meaning of Freeriding?

to me i think of it:
1) NOT being XC where you ride for speed - up and down
2) not being Downhill - where you ride for speed downhill - technical stuff is involved but SPEED is the goal, not necessarily doing new/cool stuff or looking for the hardest lines...

but just a more laid-back style where you try out new challenging stuff, look for the difficult lines and "pretty" lines... and just ride for the fun of it, but usually seeking out big challenges...

so Danka24, are you thinking "Freeriding" is more "North Shore" style riding ramps and huge drops and all?

or how do you guys thing of Freeriding?
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Freeriding involves stunts, jumps, drops, gap jumps.
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Freeriding involves stunts, jumps, drops, gap jumps.
Sorry but i strongly disagree here ,nathank is inline with my views, freeriding is FREE, it is not defined as beeing macho rider going BIG. Its about having fun on a bike, riding harder than pure XC racing style, but more importantly be FREE and DEVOID of any DH/DJ/NS/XC labels in your riding.
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Sorry but i strongly disagree here ,nathank is inline with my views, freeriding is FREE, it is not defined as beeing macho rider going BIG. Its about having fun on a bike, riding harder than pure XC racing style, but more importantly be FREE and DEVOID of any DH/DJ/NS/XC labels in your riding.
From the pictures, that is trail riding big difference.
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From the pictures, that is trail riding big difference.
I have no objection to any opinion presented, but having said that we have the following mtb disciplines.

DH/XC/FR/NSFR/TR/DJ/UA .....dooooh i dont need any more labels. i just want some bloody time to ride and i cant find any ...at least at this ****y period of moving between cities and writing research papers

Anyway cheer up people, labels or no labels...
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Well, I have been in that area, so I figure seeing the terrain, the mean could be varied.
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it looks like ur running on the edge of ur fork... in pics one and 3 all the travel is used up nice
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cheers guys... uve helped me realise that im not a Xc rider... im actually i freerider ( i think) I do abit of everything... even though my favourite is dj'ing and dh'ing but my rig hasnt been good enough so far... hopefully in the future i will pursue the downhilling... Now i have a dirt jumper rig and a Xc/ Freeride rig
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