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    New Speedball New Speedball Yay Yay Yay Yay

    Is awesome. Greatest upgrade that anyone could ever put on their bike. Makes descending very steep hills way more fun and controlled. The rail clamp is of poor design though.... If you smash your ass onto the rear of the seat then it'll push the seat down to near vertical. Another tool to carry. Otherwise, it's great, and tought me to not smash my ass.

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    Not that excited about are you.
    Strike like an eagle and sacrifice the dove.
    Words and Stuff.

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    whats a speedball?
    to me, a paintballer thats a form of paintball

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    It's a telescoping seat post.
    Strike like an eagle and sacrifice the dove.
    Words and Stuff.

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    do what?

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    to me it's heroin and cocaine... or the thing below my office chair ... one of the 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Smashy View Post
    Not that excited about are you.
    *Tear*

    @Cheeto, a more correct explanation would be.... I guess, a teloscopping seatpost that can be adjusting whilst riding. 80mm of travel.

    Also, it looks like Crank Bros. has some licesnsing agreements with Cane Creek ("DirectSets") and Maverick ("Javelin", or "Joplin" or something). The DirectSets look like original headsets from them, although the Javelin is either a super obvious knockoff of the Speedball or a licensed copy.... in orange.

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    oh, sounds pointless lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProFail View Post
    *Tear*

    The DirectSets look like original headsets from them,
    Crank Brothers licensed the non-threaded headset concept so their preload works like it's supposed to. The cup as inner bearing race is all them.

    Quote Originally Posted by ProFail View Post
    although the Javelin is either a super obvious knockoff of the Speedball or a licensed copy.... in orange.
    Both companies seem to be offering the product, so it's probably licensed.

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    still not seeing the point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheeto View Post
    still not seeing the point
    Go here for an explanation of a different brand (same idea though):

    http://www.gravitydropper.com/

    It's awesome on a trail bike...down for descending:


    And up for climbing:


    All with just the flip of a switch. It's great for really rolling trails.

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    OH ok i see how it would help now...
    omg snow...i miss snow..
    ALASKA spoiled me lol...

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    The poor man's speedball/gravity dropper (aka kickin' it old school):

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynMachine View Post
    The poor man's speedball/gravity dropper (aka kickin' it old school):

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    [QUOTE=BearSquirrel;5932109 The cup as inner bearing race is all them.
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    Is this a complete sentence? What are you trying to say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trimbler View Post
    ORLY?

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    how does the speedball compare with the gravitydropper?

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    I have a gravity dropper and I absolutely love it. To me it made more of a difference in my riding than any other upgrade I have made. I wouldn't use it for xc racing, but any mountain biking style I feel it is extremely beneficial.
    I may be fat but I'm slow enough to make up for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenLi View Post
    how does the speedball compare with the gravitydropper?
    I think their pretty similar now that both companies offer remote versions, but the GD has optional 4" of travel versus the Speedball's 3".

    I also think the GD has a different clamp design. The SB's sucks major ass. My seat kept of tilting if I sat to hard on the rear (I'm not a Clyde- 100 #'s, so weight isn't the issue). The SB's clamp uses one hex bolt to secure the rails horizontally, if that makes sense. The guy's at my LBS predicted the suckage but I ignored them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProFail View Post
    I think their pretty similar now that both companies offer remote versions, but the GD has optional 4" of travel versus the Speedball's 3".

    I also think the GD has a different clamp design. The SB's sucks major ass. My seat kept of tilting if I sat to hard on the rear (I'm not a Clyde- 100 #'s, so weight isn't the issue). The SB's clamp uses one hex bolt to secure the rails horizontally, if that makes sense. The guy's at my LBS predicted the suckage but I ignored them.
    Also, the SB/Joplin is available only in 30.9 and 31.6, whereas the gravity dropper and AMP are available in 27.2 and up with shims. This will likely change since Crank Brothers is working on making the Joplin available in smaller sizes. Also, the Speedball is hydraulic and is infinitely adjustable whereas the AMP and GD are spring-loaded and have set drops. There's some other differences too but those are the biggies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixfingeredman View Post
    Is this a complete sentence? What are you trying to say?
    As in, "Commenting without reading the sentence carefully, that's all you." I apologize for my cavalier use of the vernacular. I will translate: "Crank Brothers originated the idea of using the headset cup itself as a bearing race. "

    I do think I mis-spoke though. It's the cup acts as the outer bearing race, not the inner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynMachine View Post
    The poor man's speedball/gravity dropper (aka kickin' it old school):
    Nah...

    This is old school:


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