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Old 10-11-03, 02:21 AM   #1
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MTBing, I didn't expect it to be this fun!!!

Last week, I started riding the newly built MTB.

As some of you may know, I am a roadie...

Anyway, I am amzed on what I can do with this bike. I am not used to riding dirtroads, trails, over rocks and tree roots, over grass, mud and everything else.. But man, I like the experience...

At first, I was a bit scared of hitting mud at 25kmh, but the bike seem stable as if it was a roadbike on asphalt. I used to ride BMX when i was younger, and this MTB feels like a beefed up BMX that can manuever in rocky, sandy surfaces..

BTW heres the setup,
Trek Alpha frameset, acera brakes and shifter, Deore LX cranks and deraileurs, Shimano Parallux hubs, Columbus Aero rims w/ WTB 2.1tires, Amoeba Bars, stem kit, SR Suntout XCP 75-LO 80mm Forks.

Now, I will have to reschedule my training sessions.. Have to include MTBing..

BTW, can these Shimano Acera Shifters hold out? I believe this is a low-end group w/c forced me to go 8spd....
What about these Suntour XCP shox? I got this because they were selling it cheap.. Can't afford those Marzocchi's yet...
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Glad to hear you enjoyed it.
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Old 10-11-03, 03:34 AM   #3
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I'm glad to see you've discovered the joys of mountain biking. I think it's good to see so many people crossing over either from road to mountain biking or vice versa. Cycling is much too great an activity to limit one's focus to one particular area.

As far as your components go, MTB components go through much more abuse than their road counterparts. Expect yours to fail. It's really not a matter of if but of when. Yes, your components are relatively low-end but if you baby them then they'll last quite a while. Of course that may cramp your riding style. Personally, I would only do that if money right now were of immense issue. Otherwise, I would suggest that you simply ride to your ability and when you break something, step up to something stronger. Yes, it will be a bit of an arms race but eventually you will reach equilibrium with your components.
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I totally agree with khoun about the components, ride the crap out of them until they break, there no point in restricting your riding style because you dont have top end stuff.

On my current MTB i have pretty crappy forks* (Manitou AXEL comps's) and until i can afford my dream forks* (Fox TALAS RLC's) im gonna ride em into the ground.

A friend of mine has the SR Suntours, and to be honest they're a fine set to start off with, until you start doing drops and jumps then i dont see the urgent need in changing them. I also had some acera shifters and derailleurs, and to be honest the whole kit lasted me 3 odd years, and they are still going ok.

Id watch that stem though dude I had the amoeba stem and bar kit, and the stem cracked near where the bolts fasten, and thats with very little stress, they looked to be made out of really weird materials, very weak indeed. The bars are still going VERY well, in fact i swapped them onto my current bike in favour of the cacky giant flat bars that came stock. After 2-3 foot drops and stair rides etc, they're totally fine!

*I withdraw the right to argue whether or not "forks" is the correct terminology.
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I have a marzocchi used MXC 2002 with 100mm travel for sale, $100 bucks, whoo new lowers! I feel unethical, but am I not helping peop;le by giving them purchasing options.
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thanks for all the support guys..

I am not yet riding with the Local MTB guys, I feel my bike handling skills are too weak to keep up with them. So I'm still practicing by myself until I get to a level that I think I would not slow them down..

Drops? I don't think I'm up to that level yet... i still bare my chicken instincts.

But I do love these LX components.. I am pleased of LX drivetrain.. I think this is the gruppo I will upgrade to, when I break these Acera stuff..

About the Amoeba stem breaking, I have seen one (the LBS owner warned me in advance, so he swapped the stem that came with the kit with another Amoeba stem, the one used for DH.. It has a 4 bolt flange.. I hope this will hold up.)

Sparticus, thanks for the offer.. But my pocket is empty right now.. business was slow for the last few weeks.. I hope I can make up for the loss this week.
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Thats cool that the LBS keep track of things like that, id stick with them, they sound like a good bunch.

Id try and get another mate involved into the mtb scene, as riding in pairs or more is a lot safer than riding solo, if you were to have a bad crash, you'd like to think someone would be about to help you out. Also riding with a partner or around the same skill level can push you even harder, and you will both improve on each other.
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well if your ever still interested just PM me
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You should build the best of both worlds and get a Cyclocross bike. Road bike on steroids for the trail.
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But I do love these LX components.. I am pleased of LX drivetrain.. I think this is the gruppo I will upgrade to, when I break these Acera stuff..
I feel that DeoreLX is the 105 of the MTB world. It's the sweet-spot as far as bang-for-buck goes. In the distant MTB past, DeoreDX held that position but then they got rid of DeoreDX and moved DeoreLX up the line (1994). Then they inserted Deore back in (1999 or 2000) where DeoreLX used to be (recreational rider component slot) even though they got rid of Deore (originally created in 1986?) once before when they created DeoreII (also DeoreXT-II) around 1988. They got rid of DeoreII when they created DeoreLX and DeoreDX (1990). This all happened in the late 80s and early 90s.
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As I was ride down a steep hill, I got to thinking, when I'm too old for this I'll become a roadie
Welcome to the dark side
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Congratulations for crossing over to the "Dark Side" as Headless called it. I too ride the road, but find off-road much more fun and exciting.

It sounds like you bike is just perfect for the riding you're doing. It seems to me that a lot of people get too much bike as a newbie. Although it's always a personal choice, it just makes sense to me to start off lower end and upgrade as you go.

The forks you have are fine, as your skill improves you'll start to realize the need for more adjustments and either lighter weight or more strenght depending on what style of riding you enjoy more.

A Khuon said, replace part as you go!

Enjoy, have fun, and let me add that like scuba diving, it's always better to go with a buddy!

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Took it to the next level

Yesterday, a MTB expert offered to ride with me in one of the technical trails they used to take for practice an competition. This would take us 500-600m up a mountain.

He taught me braking, downhill manuevering/handling, steep climing....

That was the first intance that I use my granny with my 34T cog. He said the terrain we climbed was a 30-35 deg incline.. I didn't think I would be able to climb that but fortunately I did. Nearly at the top, my bike wheelied after hitting a huge rock -- had to bail .. He said I had to balance my weight to avoid things like these from happening..

I also like riding through those roots.. slippery but didn't crash.. thank god.

Downhill was thru loose stones and big rocks.. "Chickened" out a few times. but all was good..
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That was the first intance that I use my granny with my 34T cog

I know how you feel about using the granny for the first time.

In my 8 years of mountain biking, this summer was the first time I ever used my granny ring on the trail. It was because my chain was 8 links to short (ALL summer ) and I had my DC fork on the bike. I felt real bad about it, but then again, the bike weighed 30 pounds. I use my granny occasionally now (32T granny), but I've never been in 1st gear.
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