K2 zed 4.0
K2 zed 4.0
New Specialized S-works Epic frameset (w/ adjustable brain), Fox Float 100RLC fork, Thompson seatpost, CK headset. XT/XTR drivetrain, Hayes hydraulic discs, Mavic 317 disc rims, semi-slick tires. mmmmmm.... Thanks Santa!
On the contrary. Out of all the megabuck bikes here, that classic Ritchey stands out.Originally Posted by jeff williams
It's like finding a mint 69 Camaro SS in a farmer's barn...Post more pics when you finish with restorations.
Thanks Bentrim- you made my day!Originally Posted by bentrim
So it's like finding a porky ancient bike that is marginally fast in a straight line but wallows through corners and is under-braked?Originally Posted by bentrim
Bad analogy. It's just a bike.
Originally Posted by justsomeguy
Underbraked is moot- I haven't even got to ripping those old off-
Do you own a 12 year old mtb that runs? Then it can't be sh@t right?
LIKE SHURE.. i'm taking corners @ 20, leaning w\ the h-bar end 2 feet off tha ground- on a bike that wallows? whatever- its about 22-23 pounds and is f-up p-23 ritchey or something-
The weld\frame designs were copied to Rockies, Special ect- Who came up with the ht design? Mostly Tom Ritchey- I ride his metal, a good product.
Go break a bike and I'll pass ya- "wallowing" in tears.
P.S....post a rig was the thread? Like i'm SHUURE you ride a Foes Weasle or the like- I'd to do that too, can't afford, so lets race flat, oh, and I guess in a straight------------------------------------------------------------------------------
and again- MERRY CHRISTMAS! ( had a few drinks- otherwise wouldn't kare- " THEMS FIGHTING WORDS SON, NEVER INSULT A MANS HORSE! ) YOU should have pointed out what a crappy photograph though. J
Last edited by jeff williams; 12-26-03 at 02:00 AM.
You're missing the point. I didn't say that it would perform better than a new bike. It's about paying homage to a classic MTB company.Originally Posted by justsomeguy
So no, it's not a bad analogy to people like me who appreciates ALL bikes; not just the "latest and greatest". You just don't see and appreciate bikes in the same way. That's okay. I'm sure there are people who don't like or appreciate other classics either like: 69 Camaros, The Doors and Led Zeppelin, Bobby Orr...you get the picture.
Funny though, that you are dissing the "porky ancient bike". Did you know that a whole lot of bike companies are going back to old school cromoly. Says something about the "ancient bikes" doesn't it? They were built well. Let's hope you and I can say the same for the aluminum bikes we are riding now.
For your last line about a bike being, "just a bike". If that's the case we all might as well think the same and ride the same bike from Sears.
To summarize: We all ride different bikes for different reasons whether it be functional, status symbol, sense of nostalgia and no one is wrong -- some prefer blondes, others prefer brunettes, some like Ginger, others like Mary Ann...
Finally, how many more pictures of the latest shiny new Trek, Specialized, or Cannondale can we possibly look at? I can just go to their slick website to see their 2004 bikes for that.
Don't start throwing rocks from that last comment people, I admit I ride a bike made by one of the "big three" too ...
Last edited by bentrim; 12-26-03 at 01:46 PM.
Quick! Duck! Something just flew over your head!Originally Posted by jeff williams
My comment was about the analogy, and finding an old SS, not about whatever bike it is that you ride.
Originally Posted by bentrim
No, I'm not "dissing" the "porky ancient bike" I'm laughing at the analogy that holds up an SS as some kind of performance machine.
It is just a bike. Just as the latest ti wonder is just a bike, or the latest Trek carbon jobby, etc. etc.Originally Posted by bentrim
I'm amused by folks who apparently have a good deal of their self-worth tied up in their bike when it's not about the ride, it's about the ride.
...and I'm amused by your egocentricism that compels you to criticize or find amusement by those that see things differently from you.Originally Posted by justsomeguy
You're the one who is making a big deal, or overanalyzing an innocuous metaphor I made just to make a pointless point that benefits no one. So who's really the person with the small sense of worth here?
If that's the way you view life, you're in for one tough trip buddy since not everyone is going to see things as you see it in your world, nor does anyone have to justify it to you. Case closed. But regardless, you have yourself a Happy Holidays and prosperous New Year.
BTW, I find you contradictory. If a bike is just a bike to you, why are you even looking at this thread which has bikes ranging from $50 to over $5000? To some of us who are lucky enough to live in a democrasy where we have freedom of choice, bikes (and other things -- including people) have utilitarian, extrinsic, and intrisic value...
P.S. If you want to debate or need clarification on some of the topics I covered here including consumer behavior, Freud's id versus ego theory, Narcisstic Personality Disorder, supply side economics, Karl Marx's Das Kapital, philosophy of logic, Camaros, or old school bikes, please e-mail me privately and let's keep petty arguments out of the forums.
Last edited by bentrim; 12-26-03 at 04:29 PM.
LOL. Not overanalyzing, just pointing out that the analogy is funny. Apparently this causes you some kind of distress or something.Originally Posted by bentrim
Comparinig a classic nimble bike to a classic car that is anything but nimble is funny.
p.s. Since when is it a requirement that a post benefits someone?
Originally Posted by justsomeguy
Touchee! Okay, you got me on that one, Sir.
2000 Rockhopper Pro
Avid Mech disc front (scary powerful!!!)
Avid V brake rear
Stock wheelset for now
Shimano SPD515 Clipless pedals/Specialized mountain comp shoes
Thats a Comp Air Tool there too.
Manitou SX Fork (suprisingly usable--never bottomed out on me, and I'm ~195 pounds)
Stock crankset. Works well for me.
Did I mention I love my bike?
Here's mine. It's new, so it's all stock. I'll replace stuff with better stuff as I break it.
I love the mud wipeout! Mine's usually coated in that too, but you can see in my pic it's been replaced by snow >=)
Thanks, I love it too. Certain trails here hold water for weeks because of all the tree cover. Sometimes the only way through it is, well...through it .
Nice wipeout! That's the way a mountain bike SHOULD look! Mine is covered in dirt, scratches, and mud like a real bike should be! I spend less time worry about cosmetics and more time riding
My money pits:
Cannondale Jekyll 500 with Avid Mechs and Sun DS2 rims with XT disc hubs.
Cannondale F900 with SRAM XO shifters/derailler, Mavic X3.1 tubeless wheels, Avid Mechs, Race Face Next LP cranks, Time ATAC pedals, SRAM levers.
... Same bike as mine.. Mines usually as muddy as that, but its clean for once
Just realised you have a different fork though, did that bike come stock with an RST?
like the bike, love tha mud- you just set the theme for todays ride- gonna go get me and the bike dirty!Originally Posted by wipeout
03' Kona Stinky. Not many upgrades, XT rear derailleur, WTB weirwolf tires, specialized seat, cateye enduro 8 computer, marzocchi front fender. and missing front brake because i hate hayes.
my new surly...gotta love it
Originally Posted by Cornish_Rdr_UK
Nope, no RST. It's a marzocchi MZ comp and it comes stock on 04 hardrock comp's. At least the US version.
It felt better than a lot of the other forks available in the price range, but it's still an entry level fork and will most likely be replaced within the year.
Hmmm... On the Britsh version it comes stock with an RST Gilla Fork, I like the feel of the RST compared to the MZ... But i ahvent tried many forks, so i cant really compare it to anything better