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Old 02-26-08, 10:44 PM
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Mechanical Disc Brakes

Looking for some starter mechanical disc brakes for my newest build. I have been scouring ebay hoping to find someone who is upgrading to hydraulics and is selling a used set of Avids or what not but no dice. Does anyone know of any good disc brake deals or have any input on what seems to be good out there?
 
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Originally Posted by NitroPye
Looking for some starter mechanical disc brakes for my newest build. I have been scouring ebay hoping to find someone who is upgrading to hydraulics and is selling a used set of Avids or what not but no dice. Does anyone know of any good disc brake deals or have any input on what seems to be good out there?
I think the consensus is that for Mechanical brakes, Avids are your best choice.

And they can be found for around 60 bucks on Jenson
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why don't you want to just get hydraulic? the price? you can get some of the juicy line very cheap
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I figured price, but if there is a hydraulic setup that I am not sacrificing quality just or the sake of getting hydraulic I will definitely go for.
 
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Originally Posted by BenLi
I think the consensus is that for Mechanical brakes, Avids are your best choice.

And they can be found for around 60 bucks on Jenson
Ditto..

Look no further than the Avid BB7's.
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Originally Posted by NitroPye
I figured price, but if there is a hydraulic setup that I am not sacrificing quality just or the sake of getting hydraulic I will definitely go for.
check out the juicy 5's. they are great. the only reason they are not on par with the boutique brands is weight...and that is not that big a deal at all. i am confident you'll like them.

someone could clarify, but what did sram do? they made a juicy 3 or something?

let someone else clarify this but get whatever is comparable to the juicy 5, i think that model is still available.

look around on the net. you can prob get left over models that are new but cheaper. one of the diff of the newer ones was a split perch, but who cares. the older one will be just as strong.

good luck
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Originally Posted by BenLi
I think the consensus is that for Mechanical brakes, Avids are your best choice.

And they can be found for around 60 bucks on Jenson
you used to be able to get juicy 5's for 80-85 bucks, not sure if you can still find any at that price. maybe new leftovers on ebay
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Originally Posted by mx_599
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someone could clarify, but what did sram do? they made a juicy 3 or something?

good luck
They did make a Juicy 3, but it's my understanding that it was only an OEM part. Can't get them aftermarket.

Go with the BB7s. They're way easier to deal with than hydros, have a good feel, and plenty of stopping power for XC riding.
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I like BB7s, they really come alive with big rotors.
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I bought some Juicy 5's last year and they have been great. I got them here https://www.fullcycles.com/index.php/...6e665919ef2eb1

Juicy 3's available too.
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In my understanding, the J3 is the previous years J5, if that makes sense. So therefore:
2007 Juicy 3 = 2006 Juicy 5
2008 Juicy 5 = 2009 Juicy 3

I could be wrong though, do your research before taking it for gospel.
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Would you like a set of used hayes nines? I just may know someone willing to part with them
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Just saw this on Jenson:



I have no experience with them, but I have heard many a peoples say good things about Maguras. Not too shabby of a price either.
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Many good things to be heard about Maggie's yes, but not so much the Julie's. I've heard more bad stories than good of the Julie's, though in saying that Specialized spec the Marta's on their Stumpjumper lineup, so they must suck epically.
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BB7's for $50USD on pricepoint, if I'm not mistaken.
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Yah, BB7 for $50 at many online shops, $60 is too much.
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Before they convince you to go hydraulic, read some of the 800 Avid ball bearing reviews here. Then check out some hydraulics.
https://www.mtbr.com/reviews/disc_brake_system/

I've had the urge a few times to go hydraulics, but this site cures me every time, especially when I calculated recently that my BB7's weigh the same as the Juicy 7's.

I ride in the mountains and have never lacked for stopping or modulation with Avid levers.

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Originally Posted by Al.canoe
...I calculated recently that my BB7's weigh the same as the Juicy 7's.
Did the lever, cable, housing, caliper, pads, rotors, adapter, and hardware come out to 400g? I would have guessed it would have been more than that based on weights I had for some of my old V-brake stuff.
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Originally Posted by Al.canoe
Before they convince you to go hydraulic, read some of the 800 Avid ball bearing reviews here. Then check out some hydraulics.
https://www.mtbr.com/reviews/disc_brake_system/

I've had the urge a few times to go hydraulics, but this site cures me every time, especially when I calculated recently that my BB7's weigh the same as the Juicy 7's.

I ride in the mountains and have never lacked for stopping or modulation with Avid levers.

Al
Ha ha You can't go by that, the site has an average user rating of 3.82 out of 5 for Hayes MX2
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Originally Posted by Al.canoe
Before they convince you to go hydraulic, read some of the 800 Avid ball bearing reviews here. Then check out some hydraulics.
https://www.mtbr.com/reviews/disc_brake_system/

I've had the urge a few times to go hydraulics, but this site cures me every time, especially when I calculated recently that my BB7's weigh the same as the Juicy 7's.

I ride in the mountains and have never lacked for stopping or modulation with Avid levers.

Al

I read the reviews and am glad I made the decision to go with the Juicy 5's. I have tortured them for over almost a year and have not adjusted a single thing.
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I run Hayes MX4's with 6" rotors on my DBack. Besides just adjusting them I've had no problems whatsoever for almost a year so far.

And once you burn in the rotors, they stop in a hurry.
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Originally Posted by born2bahick
Ha ha You can't go by that, the site has an average user rating of 3.82 out of 5 for Hayes MX2
I agree, you can't go by the ratings unless they are 5.0 with a lot of reviewers. A better way is to look for problem areas/trends. There are folks there who switched from Juicy 5/7's to BB7's. I've a few folks on the trails who've done the same.

Are there many who've done that? I doubt it. A lot of folks switch the other way. For me, I just don't want the hassel of bleeding brakes on a bike. I could be unlucky and get a set that need to be bled often. My BB7's are as maintenance free as brakes can get.

Plus, the last pair of BB7's for my grandson's bike cost all of $100 plus an additional $22.00 for levers. Can't beat that.

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Originally Posted by Al.canoe
My BB7's are as maintenance free as brakes can get.
FACT:

BB7s require more adjustment, and more maintenance, than many hydraulic disc brakes.

BB7s are not as maintenance-free as brakes can get.
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How so?

I also don't like the idea of bleeding a brake line. I understand how cable works rather simply and fixing it is not difficult. How does hydraulic maintenance go? I drained and put in new brake fluid on my motorcycle once.. same idea?
 
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It looks like a pain after watching my LBS fix some hydro's.
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