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Old 03-02-08, 07:55 PM   #1
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NEW bike!

My dad and the owner of the shop that sponsors the team I'm on, surprised me with a new full suspension. I must say, I like full suspension alot! It's awesome doesn't bob at all, even when I stand and hammer it, it still hardly moves it's not noticable anyways. Weighs 26-27lbs.

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Old 03-02-08, 07:58 PM   #2
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It has mostly Shimano xt for the drivetrain with FSA cranks. I got a Deore F/d because it's cheap and performs about the same as higher end ones.
The tires I'm switching to Maxxis Crossmarks and will eventually get some American Classic wheels. The pedals are getting changed to regular Eggbeaters and I'm putting ESI grips on.
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Old 03-02-08, 08:00 PM   #3
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Nice bike, but what are the plans for the Salsa? That was a cool bike.
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Old 03-02-08, 08:02 PM   #4
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I'm gone keep it probably and make it into a cross bike. Or, sell it to get some money to upgrade the Kona.
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Old 03-02-08, 08:03 PM   #5
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Nice bike, but your stem is freaking me out.
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Old 03-02-08, 08:39 PM   #6
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it looks different lol.
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Cut down the brakelines and steerer tube, flip the stem, and ride away clean.
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It's awesome doesn't bob at all, even if I stand and hammer it.
False.
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Old 03-02-08, 11:24 PM   #9
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False.
Holy crap.

If it doesn't bob when he rides it, it doesn't. Do you ride his bike, in the style that he rides it? No?

Saying something doesn't make it true.
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Old 03-02-08, 11:27 PM   #10
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If it doesn't bob when he rides it, it doesn't.
His bike bobs. Especially when he decides to "stand and hammer it."

Just the facts.
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Old 03-02-08, 11:30 PM   #11
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His bike bobs. Especially when he decides to "stand and hammer it."

Just the facts.
You've ridden his bike? You have the same body? You stood there and watched him ride?
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You've ridden his bike? You have the same body? You stood there and watched him ride?
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If his shock is set up properly, it will bob when you "stand and hammer it", even with the propedal on.
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Old 03-02-08, 11:38 PM   #14
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You've ridden his bike? You have the same body? You stood there and watched him ride?
I think the point that Pe... er, "Rutnick" is trying to make is that there is no suspension design that absolutely will not bob if you quote "hammer" on it... especially not that single pivot design on the Trek...
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You've ridden his bike? You have the same body? You stood there and watched him ride?
I don't need to have done that to know that his claim is false. It's certainly classic fanboy pap, but that does not make it true.

The only way that his bikes performs as he claims it does if if it's a hardtail, or he replaced his shock with a piece of pipe.

All FS bikes bob to some degree, especially if you "stand and hammer it."

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The suspension platform kona uses on their bikes, except for the new coilair is a faux bar, which means it is just a disguised single pivot. In order for it to be a four bar, the pivots closest to the dropouts have to be below the pivot. The pivot on the four deluxe is above the dropouts which makes it a faux bar. Faux Bars are considered singlepivots mainly because they share the same riding characteristics, a lot of pedal feedback, and a ton of brakejack. Platform valves hide the bobbing sensation to a degree.

My bike bobs, it isn't noticeable much because of the propedal platform on my dhx5 though any bike will bob.

Back to the topic of the bike, nice, enjoy it, and do flip the stem.
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Any bike will bob.
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Any bike will bob.
Road bike?

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if it is set up right for his weight there will be some peddle bob, maybe not much, but it will still be there.
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I meant as in a full suspension bike.
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I meant as in a full suspension bike.
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Oh I am aware any bike will bob, but "it doesn't bob at all even when I stand and hammer it" followed by "false" is about as constructive as a stick in my ass. Maybe I am tired of seeing these negative and completely devoid of any sort of intelligence replies.
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Oh I am aware any bike will bob, but "it doesn't bob at all even when I stand and hammer it" followed by "false" is about as constructive as a stick in my ass. Maybe I am tired of seeing these negative and completely devoid of any sort of intelligence replies.
Ass-Sticks are a fairly constructive.

You obviously haven't tried one.
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