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Old 03-11-08, 03:21 PM   #1
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Best tire for...

My last ride I noticed that my tire doesn't really grip as well as I would like.
Running the stock Bontrager connections I think it is.

I need a tired that can handle roots, sandy areas, mud, rock, and that dang Georgia clay, both hard packed and soft and wet. Pine straw is also annoying but I don't think you can do much about that.
Inclines, declines and straights.
I was looking at the Velociraptor's or the weirwolfs, but I play on racing and people have said they have a high rolling resistance.


at 20.00 a pair, I think its a good deal, but I need something that would be worth it.
My current tires are a 2.0... would my 3900 have clearance for a 2.1?
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Sure. Go for it. Why the hell not? A good all around tire is said to be the Kenda Nevegal.
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Old 03-11-08, 06:52 PM   #3
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irc mythos are cheap, grip good, and fairly light and IMO are way better than the raptors.. get the 2.1 size as IRC are a little narrow. I run trailbears at 2.25 width they should fit at least the front.. My current setup is a trailbear in the front and a mythos front on the rear. Not sure if they still make the mythos, but they are still available.

the conection trails are almost a semislick. so any knobby would give better grip.

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Old 03-11-08, 06:54 PM   #4
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Sure. Go for it. Why the hell not? A good all around tire is said to be the Kenda Nevegal.
Negatory. I have a set, and they're heavy, way to much rolling resistance and the only time when they grip really well (comparitively) is in mud.
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those tires you linked (velociraptors) are wire bead and heavy as lead don't buy those .. 20 bucks a iece there are way better deals get the kevlar beads as well.

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Old 03-11-08, 06:58 PM   #6
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Thanks for that tip, I don't want a heavy tire, lol.
Yea, those connections dont have a lot of grip.
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Old 03-11-08, 07:02 PM   #7
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Maxxis is a local company out of Ga. They do a lot of testing in the Ga. dirt and hook up well in this area as too. Take a look at the Highroller.
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High rollers look pretty grippy,
whats the difference between the two models though?
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Never thought picking out tires could be........ hard.
need a budget XC racing tire that grips roots, sand, rocks, mud, dirt, hardpack and GA clay.
also need to be able to climb and all that.
So far my list is the mytho's or the High rollers.
both have great reviews also..
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nothing is good in mud except mud tires, which suck at everything else..
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Well, there is very little hard core mud on these trails, its mostly just little areas that are lower, or by the creek. It just sucks with these connections as soon as the tires wet, I have no grip at all, lol.
Need something that cleans its self a bit better.

I'll probably be giving my Connections to a friend who just rides light trails, if his bike is fixable.... He had a bad wreck, jacked the derails, broke the front brakes off, and he was in the hospital for stitches, had cuts down to the bone =/

He has semi slicks on now... lol
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Negatory. I have a set, and they're heavy,
A relative statement. Heavy relative to which tire?

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way to[sic] much rolling resistance
A relative statement. Too much rolling resistance compared to relative to which tire?

How do you define too much rolling resistance?

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and the only time when they grip really well (comparitively[sic]) is in mud.
False.
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Negatory. I have a set, and they're heavy, way to much rolling resistance and the only time when they grip really well (comparitively) is in mud.
You're the one of the few people I have heard bad mouthing the Nevegal. I have a pair and they hook up like a scared cat on carpet.
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Old 03-11-08, 07:57 PM   #14
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ahhh so much controversy over tires also lol
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A relative statement. Heavy relative to which tire?



A relative statement. Too much rolling resistance compared to relative to which tire?

How do you define too much rolling resistance?



False.
Heavy relative to all tires I've ever owned. It's a noticable difference. I've had Holy Rollers, Bonty Jones, and I couple other I don't remember sitting that are on my bike shelf. All of them roll faster and are much lighter than the Nevegals. The only good thing about hte Nevegals is that they shed mud well.

To much rolling resistance as in, the tires roll to slow to make up for the lack of grip.

False? You can't tell me what is false and what's not. If it doesn't perfrom well for me, it doesn't.

The Nevagals are good tires until you ride a good tire.
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The Nevagals are good tires until you ride a good tire.
Care to elaborate? How good a tire is is relative to terrain, soil type, wet vs dry among other things. What is a good tire?
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What is a good tire?
A tire that has the best weight vs rolling resistance vs cornering traction vs climbing traction, depending on terrain conditions. If you have some kinds of terrain, you may not be able to get a good result in any of those categories. I can't find many tires that corner well but maintain other desirable attributes on the terrain that I ride on.

Based on Cheeto's description, he rides trails that are similar to the ones in my area.

He should just try a few tires out over time and figure out what works best. Also, he might want to try different front/rear tire combos.


I personally run Bontrager Jones tires, the ones that came on my bike. After switching tires around, I found that, while it may not be super-light, it's not heavy either and rolls well.

Note- I've never run a MTB Michelin tire, you may want to check them out.
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i ride specalized tires. no one on here ever says anything about them. i think they're pretty nice but i don't really know much about tires. cheeto, take 66's advice and support a local company. if they test their tires in GA and you ride in GA, it sounds like a match made in heaven. and that geoff guy rides them right? he's real fast.
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Heavy relative to all tires I've ever owned.
That doesn't mean they are heavy, just that your experience is pretty limited.

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All of them roll faster and are much lighter than the Nevegals.
That doesn't mean that they have "way to[sic] much rolling resistance," just that your experience is limited.

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The only good thing about hte Nevegals is that they shed mud well.
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To much rolling resistance as in, the tires roll to[sic] slow to make up for the lack of grip.
That illustrates your abject lack of understanding quite nicely.

False? You can't tell me what is false and what's not. If it doesn't perfrom well for me, it doesn't.

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The Nevagals are good tires until you ride a good tire.
False.

I've ridden plenty of "good tires," since way, way before your parents decided to bump uglies and spawn you.

You simply don't know what you are typing about.
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I personally run Bontrager Jones tires, the ones that came on my bike.
I have a fuel and hated these tires.. the front washed out something aweful .. for a rear they are just ok.. all my opinion..

I demo'd a bike with nevengals they seemed pretty good, very fat/ high volume for a 2.0. i'd say they'd be good for very rugged terrain, but I ride smooth flowy stuff.

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You really like putting in [sic] to point out slight grammatical errors.

I can't be bothered to argue with you right now. You'll just assume I've never ridden any "good tires" and write my opinion off with a horrible cliché.

I don't like Nevegals.
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You really like putting in [sic] to point out slight grammatical errors.
False.

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You'll just assume I've never ridden any "good tires" and write my opinion off with a horrible cliché.
I am not assuming anything. I am just commenting on the unsupportable claims that you have been making.

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I don't like Nevegals.
No kidding. That doesn't mean that folks should lend any credibility to your opinions about tires though.
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You really like putting in [sic] to point out slight grammatical errors.

I can't be bothered to argue with you right now. You'll just assume I've never ridden any "good tires" and write my opinion off with a horrible cliché.

I don't like Nevegals.
I don't like Nevegals either, I think their heavy and slow. I used to ride Kenda Kinetics 2.35 and I think their faster than the 2.1 Nevegals.
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I like the Nevegals, I just like the 26x2.35 Kenda ExCavators more at the moment.

The Nevegal makes a good rear tire and mates up really well with a Kenda Blue Groove on the front.
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