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Old 11-29-03, 08:03 AM   #1
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'lil help with digicams

I put this here because I need a digital camera mainly for taking great mountain biking shots. I'm thinking about getting one for my husband for xmas (please, don't tell him).

Anyway, my budget is $400 max. I like the weatherproofness of the Olympus Stylus 400 but the Canon A80 is a better camera.

What do you use/recommend for action shots?
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Old 11-29-03, 09:46 AM   #2
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I put this here because I need a digital camera mainly for taking great mountain biking shots. I'm thinking about getting one for my husband for xmas (please, don't tell him).

Anyway, my budget is $400 max. I like the weatherproofness of the Olympus Stylus 400 but the Canon A80 is a better camera.

What do you use/recommend for action shots?
I havent had any problems with my canon A70, its a pretty sweet camera. When I was in the process of buying it I heard that they were coming out with new stuff, and out comes the A80. I am still satisfied with my camera, I have used it alot since I got it. The video quality is quite good but it could use a MIC that picked up less wind noise. I havent really used it for alot of action shots which I really want to do, and I havent really learned how to adjust the aperture, shutter, and exposure to take perfect pictures yet. I just looked at the specs on the A80 and it looks totally sweet. It only has up to 320X240 res video capabilities though. It could have used a little more optical zoom also. Overall it has TONS of features and I think the A80 is definately the camera to get.
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Old 11-29-03, 10:50 AM   #3
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The Minolta DImage Xt is nice because it's zoom mechanism is enclosed but still gives you 3x optical zoom. This is great in less than ideal conditions. It turns on and is ready to shoot in 1.1 seconds which makes capturing "the moment" possible without having to wait for a telescoping zoom to pop out. Check it out.
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Old 11-29-03, 01:02 PM   #4
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i think you might be able to get an older canon gX series at that price. i am extremely satisifed with my older canon g2. the only bad thing is the size since it is a lot larger than most cameras.
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Old 11-29-03, 01:26 PM   #5
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Can't speak for Olympus, but I've heard really good things about Canon from guys who are serious about photography.

One friend recommended Canon (S400 which is the one I'll probably buy) because of the following features:

-Small size for carrying. As one friend advised, "big cameras get left at home. Small cameras get used."

-Easy to use manual override.

- shiftable program mode so you can set the Exposure Value while in auto.

He also recommended the Pentax Optio.
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try checking www.edealsinfo.com every now and then. they don't always have digital cams on there, but they update the page twice a day during weekdays, so there's always a good chance you might find one.
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I bought the Canon S400 a couple of months ago and I'm very happy with it. I carry it with me everywhere.

The A70 and A80 are really nice cameras but I thought too bulky. The S400 felt comfortable in my hands and its so small I carry in my pocket when I hike and put in my bike bag when I ride.

It's basically a point and shoot camera but has enough features to keep me happy.

The only action pictures I've taken were kids dancing at school but I was able to get pictures of them without being blurred.

I ordered my camera online from NewEgg.com.

Check out the Canon forum at www.dpreview.com

Remember, you will also need an extra battery, an extra memory card, a carrying case, and possibly a card reader. However, you can get those items as you see a need for them.

If you order online be careful. Low ball prices could mean reconditioned or grey market, which affects warranty.

Good luck with your purchase.
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Old 11-29-03, 06:22 PM   #8
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The camera that's right for you totally depends on what you want to do with it, where it will be used and how serious about photography you are. Try these sites to get really confused!

www.dpreview.com

www.dcresource.com

www.steves-digicams.com
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Thanks guys.

I have been to dpreview a lot actually and have been reading all sorts of reviews about cameras - which only makes it more confusing, you are right aerobat

keep the opinions coming, I'm open to suggestions
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I love my Sony Cyber-shot. Mine is a little over a year old and cost uder 400. Now Sony has the newer version more mega pixels and bigger memory stick for about the same price. 3x optical and 3x digital zoom.
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I had the same problem when I bought my digicam. Too much information. I finally went to the stores and held my choices, I even took my backpack to see which one fit the best in the pockets. The S400 won out.

I'm not an experienced photographer so the limited manual controls works well for me.

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Old 11-30-03, 04:22 PM   #12
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I had the same problem when I bought my digicam. Too much information. I finally went to the stores and held my choices, I even took my backpack to see which one fit the best in the pockets. The S400 won out.

I'm not an experienced photographer so the limited manual controls works well for me.

Kathi

I looked at the s400 because I've been getting a lot of positive feedback on that one. I think now I'm leaning towards the s45 - it has a few more manual features and several auto exposure modes.

and thanks bentrim - I think you are right about size!
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S45 is a great camera. We've got the S40 at work and a lot of the pictures from it are as good as those from my Canon Digital Rebel (at 3x the cost?).

I like the S40's feature set and the auto modes seem incapable of taking a bad picture. I think there's also a RAW mode for the technical users in the crowd (RAW is image data straight from the sensor without in-camera processing).

After reading a review of the S45, it seems it's the same as a S40 with a ton of improved features.
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-Small size for carrying. As one friend advised, "big cameras get left at home. Small cameras get used."
That's a personal thing I guess.

If you want better pictures you'll hump a bigger camera with you.

If your only concern is snapshots, rather than photos, size matters.
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That's a personal thing I guess.

If you want better pictures you'll hump a bigger camera with you.

If your only concern is snapshots, rather than photos, size matters.

Interesting counterpoint statement although it's a bit vague. Could you elaborate on that?

I know the S400 isn't the best you can buy but I believe it's higher end than the A80, and smaller to boot. So bigger doesn't necessarily mean better either.

My friend who made that quote is an indy filmmaker (director and DoP) who studies cinematography and an expert in professional lighting setup. He knows his Canon s400 to a Pentium 35mm SLR's for stills, from Sony PDX-10 prosumer DV cams to Betacams...so I kinda trust what he says.

But I'm always open to another POV since I'm considering buying a digital camera too...

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The Minolta DImage Xt is nice because it's zoom mechanism is enclosed but still gives you 3x optical zoom. This is great in less than ideal conditions. It turns on and is ready to shoot in 1.1 seconds which makes capturing "the moment" possible without having to wait for a telescoping zoom to pop out. Check it out.
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I will second the endorsement for the DiMage Xt. I have the original X and the Xt is even better... lighter, faster, better resolution, smaller. The X is light and compact enough that I can operate the thing one-handed and while on the move. I've even been able to perfect a single-handed Ninja-style draw/turn-on/shoot/turn-off/stow while moving. It literally takes more effort to pull out a water bottle or fumble for the CamelBak hose than it does to use this camera. All the controls are well laid out. And yes, not having a protruding lens to snag on things makes it perfect for adventure sports.
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I'm no expert photographer, so a lot of features just confuse me. IOW, I'm a perfect candidate for a point and shoot type camera. However, my previous digital (POS) was horrible for action shots. So, my only requirement was that I could get a digi with adjustable shutter speed. All I really needed was a camera for capturing family photos (for web posting) and one with an "action" setting. I did a lot of searching and ended up with a Canon A70. It's more than I need, yet does everything I need it to without being "over my head". Plus, the price was right and I was able to buy it locally, so warranty wouldn't be an issue.

My only gripe is that the display is exposed and scratches easily.

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I'm looking into getting this for my wife. It seems like a pretty good deal. Anyone have one of these? Casio QVR40
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My only gripe is that the display is exposed and scratches easily.
Try a PDA screen protector cut down to size. A pack of 2 or 3 will make several protectors for the camera screen.

I've never had a need for it (I baby my cameras) but I hear of others using them.
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Interesting counterpoint statement although it's a bit vague. Could you elaborate on that?

My friend who made that quote is an indy filmmaker (director and DoP) who studies cinematography and an expert in professional lighting setup. He knows his Canon s400 to a Pentium 35mm SLR's for stills, from Sony PDX-10 prosumer DV cams to Betacams...so I kinda trust what he says.
"big cameras get left at home. Small cameras get used."

If someone wants the best possible results, they won't leave the big camera at home. They will hump it on the trails.

So I do disagree with his comment since I regularly leave the small camera at home and use the big camera.

It all depends upon what your goals are.
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"big cameras get left at home. Small cameras get used."

If someone wants the best possible results, they won't leave the big camera at home. They will hump it on the trails.

So I do disagree with his comment since I regularly leave the small camera at home and use the big camera.

It all depends upon what your goals are.
we have a digital video camera but I usually don't take it with us cuz of it's size (and it's not that big).

Thanks guys - I decided on the s45!
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Justsomeguy has implied something about big cameras that should be considered too; which I never considered about a camera specifically while you mountain bike...durability in case you endo with the camera in your back pack.
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Justsomeguy has implied something about big cameras that should be considered too; which I never considered about a camera specifically while you mountain bike...durability in case you endo with the camera in your back pack.

well then, I'll just kill him
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Now cut it out or else I'll have to hunt you down and hog tie you!




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