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    08' Rockhopper Disc, 08' Rockhopper Pro Disc, or 05' Stumpjumper Disc?

    Hi. I'm looking at getting a new Specialized XC hardtail. My 8 year old GT Aggressor was my first real bike but it's time for it to go. I'm looking at the bikes listed in the title of the thread and I would appreciate your opinions.

    08' Rockhopper Disc = $840
    08' Rockhopper Pro Disc = $1,100
    05' Stumpjumper Disc = $950

    I'm really intrigued by the 05' Stumpy. It's a brand new 05' but I don't know if I would be better off going with one of the newer Rockhopper bikes.

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    I'm a stumpjumper fan over rockhoppers personally, so thats what I'd go for.

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    I love my stumpjumper more than anything. Her name is Glenda

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Monkey View Post
    Hi. I'm looking at getting a new Specialized XC hardtail. My 8 year old GT Aggressor was my first real bike but it's time for it to go. I'm looking at the bikes listed in the title of the thread and I would appreciate your opinions.

    08' Rockhopper Disc = $840
    08' Rockhopper Pro Disc = $1,100
    05' Stumpjumper Disc = $950

    I'm really intrigued by the 05' Stumpy. It's a brand new 05' but I don't know if I would be better off going with one of the newer Rockhopper bikes.

    Opinions?
    Unless the Stumpjumper is NOS, I'd rather have the rockhoppers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenLi View Post
    Unless the Stumpjumper is NOS, I'd rather have the rockhoppers.
    What is NOS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Monkey View Post
    What is NOS?
    New Old Stock. It refers to a product that is not the current model, but unused, sitting in a stock room. In other words, I'd consider the sumpjumper if it is not used, otherwise, I'd go with either of the Rockhoppers.

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    Yeah it's unused. It's up on the rack in my LBS. I guess I'm kind of leaning towards the Rockhopper Pro Disc. I think my LBS will come down on the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Monkey View Post
    Yeah it's unused. It's up on the rack in my LBS. I guess I'm kind of leaning towards the Rockhopper Pro Disc. I think my LBS will come down on the price.
    Yeah, and looking quickly at the archive, it looks like the pro disc has better brakes as well.

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    I have an 08 rockhopper pro disk and it is amazing!!!

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    Im really happy with my somewhere between 08 RH pro/comp....I live in Korea and it came with the frame color of the comp, the shocks of the comp, and the hydraulic brakes and gearing of the pro. I would go with the RH pro, as the frame materials are now M4, just like the SJ. Is the price for the Pro a little high though? I paid 900,000 won for mine, which, when converted, is 860 US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenLi View Post
    Yeah, and looking quickly at the archive, it looks like the pro disc has better brakes as well.
    Brakes aren't the only thing on a bike. The 05 stumpy has a Fox fork which has it way better than the Rockhopper. Other components on the Stumpy are much higher level. And the '05 was a $1500 bike. For less than $1000? Take the Stumpy
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyccommute View Post
    Brakes aren't the only thing on a bike. The 05 stumpy has a Fox fork which has it way better than the Rockhopper. Other components on the Stumpy are much higher level. And the '05 was a $1500 bike. For less than $1000? Take the Stumpy
    I would still rather have the Rockhopper Pro.

    Bike technology tends to have a trickle down effect. The XT of 3 years ago may perform only as well as this year's LX. Also, it'd be a mistake to buy into the Fox hype. I've ridden a fox F100, and it is an excellent fork, but it isn't necessarily better than the offerings from Rockshox or other manufacturers. The Reba, in particular, is also quite a nice fork. In addition to the fact that the fox fork is 3 years old (thus 3 years late in terms of techonology), it has been sitting on a shelf for 3 years, meaning that it likely could use some servicing.

    As far as the brakes go. The OP is likely going to notice the difference between Juicy's and BB5's more than the differences between LX and XT.

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    Agree with BenLi. Years are worth a lot in cycling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BenLi View Post
    I would still rather have the Rockhopper Pro.

    Bike technology tends to have a trickle down effect. The XT of 3 years ago may perform only as well as this year's LX. Also, it'd be a mistake to buy into the Fox hype. I've ridden a fox F100, and it is an excellent fork, but it isn't necessarily better than the offerings from Rockshox or other manufacturers. The Reba, in particular, is also quite a nice fork. In addition to the fact that the fox fork is 3 years old (thus 3 years late in terms of techonology), it has been sitting on a shelf for 3 years, meaning that it likely could use some servicing.

    As far as the brakes go. The OP is likely going to notice the difference between Juicy's and BB5's more than the differences between LX and XT.
    XT of 3 years ago hasn't changed that significantly nor has LX. I have Fox and Manitou forks and the Fox is far smoother and better made than the Manitou. An unused shock shouldn't need servicing. There's little inside the fork that will deteriorate in 3 years. You'd have more deterioration on the tires than on the fork...and there won't be a problem there either.

    Now let's get down to the other equipment on the bikes. The crank on the Rockhopper has two steel rings. A steel inner ring may be desirable but a steel middle one isn't. The Stumpy has XT level cranks on it. Granted they are not external bearings but the Octalink Hollowtech cranks were still damned good ones.

    Pedals on the Stumpy are M520s. One of the best inexpensive pedals around. The Rockhopper has nonclipless pedals which can be used but will probably have to be replaced...at added cost.

    Wheels are about the same except for the Specialized Stout hub on the Stumpy. The Stout hub is a very good hub. My 1999 Stumpy had them and is still running strong without any problems.

    The Sram derailers on the Rockhopper are a step below the Stumpy's.

    The shock on the Rockhopper isn't a Reba but is instead a 4 lb Recon with a steel steer tube...a $450 MSRP fork. The 2006 Fox F80 RL (the only one I could find specs on) is a 3 lb fork...a $650 MSRP.

    But it doesn't have hydraulic brakes. It only has BB7 mechanicals (not BB5). It's probably only 3 to 4 pounds lighter then the Rockhopper and has better components but, heck, those hydros just break the deal. It's worth paying $150 extra for those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BenLi View Post
    I would still rather have the Rockhopper Pro.

    Bike technology tends to have a trickle down effect. The XT of 3 years ago may perform only as well as this year's LX. Also, it'd be a mistake to buy into the Fox hype. I've ridden a fox F100, and it is an excellent fork, but it isn't necessarily better than the offerings from Rockshox or other manufacturers. The Reba, in particular, is also quite a nice fork. In addition to the fact that the fox fork is 3 years old (thus 3 years late in terms of techonology), it has been sitting on a shelf for 3 years, meaning that it likely could use some servicing.

    As far as the brakes go. The OP is likely going to notice the difference between Juicy's and BB5's more than the differences between LX and XT.
    but components do not get revamped every year. XTR just got redone, but the I'm pretty sure LX and XT haven't changed over the past few years. Current DA, for example, is about 4 years old, I think. My numbers may be off, but you get the point. I agree in theory, bu t I'd check to see what generation the drivetrain components are on the stumpy.

    Also, isn't the rockhoppe rmostly deore level stuff? Nothing wrong with that, but I'd prefer XT of any generation.

    I sould note that I had a late 90s rockhopper that went through many configurations including a complete drivetrain overhaul. I loved it. I still think stumpies are better bikes, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyccommute View Post
    XT of 3 years ago hasn't changed that significantly nor has LX. I have Fox and Manitou forks and the Fox is far smoother and better made than the Manitou. An unused shock shouldn't need servicing. There's little inside the fork that will deteriorate in 3 years. You'd have more deterioration on the tires than on the fork...and there won't be a problem there either.

    Now let's get down to the other equipment on the bikes. The crank on the Rockhopper has two steel rings. A steel inner ring may be desirable but a steel middle one isn't. The Stumpy has XT level cranks on it. Granted they are not external bearings but the Octalink Hollowtech cranks were still damned good ones.

    Pedals on the Stumpy are M520s. One of the best inexpensive pedals around. The Rockhopper has nonclipless pedals which can be used but will probably have to be replaced...at added cost.

    Wheels are about the same except for the Specialized Stout hub on the Stumpy. The Stout hub is a very good hub. My 1999 Stumpy had them and is still running strong without any problems.

    The Sram derailers on the Rockhopper are a step below the Stumpy's.

    The shock on the Rockhopper isn't a Reba but is instead a 4 lb Recon with a steel steer tube...a $450 MSRP fork. The 2006 Fox F80 RL (the only one I could find specs on) is a 3 lb fork...a $650 MSRP.

    But it doesn't have hydraulic brakes. It only has BB7 mechanicals (not BB5). It's probably only 3 to 4 pounds lighter then the Rockhopper and has better components but, heck, those hydros just break the deal. It's worth paying $150 extra for those.
    We can talk about the details of the components all we want. And it's certainly true that the Rockhopper's components are slightly lower on the food chain, but the reality is that the Stumpy is a 3 year old bike.

    Besides, it's hardly fair to compare Fox and Manitou is it?

    OP: Have you actually gone to the shop and tried these bikes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenLi View Post
    OP: Have you actually gone to the shop and tried these bikes?
    Yes, a couple of times actually. I was most comfortable on the RH Pro Disc. I really fell in love with the bike. I just brought her home last night!



    Thanks for all the comments. I really appreciated them. I think the hyd. brakes on the RH Pro Disc were one of the deciding factors.....plus I just found the RH to be the best fit for me personally.

    I took it out last night for a quick spin.....man this thing is quick on the downhill runs. It's the best bike I've ever owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenLi View Post
    Besides, it's hardly fair to compare Fox and Manitou is it?
    About as fair as it is to compare Fox and Rock Shox.
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    I hope you enjoy it as much as I enjoy mine! (even though I have yet to take it off road, just on some nasty urban terrain in the Seoul area) :-p

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    If it stops raining I'm going to take it up to my local Metro park this weekend. They have beginner and intermediate two tracks and some more difficult single tracks (The Pines, The Snake, and Roller Coaster).

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