You can't be a serious Road Nazi and not appreciate MTB technology
Mountain bikes have contributed so much to bicycle technology over the past 20+ years that it's hard to over estimate their influence on all of cycling. The whole sloping top tube geometry that is predominate in road bikes today came from MTBs. The stresses that bicycle components have to withstand on the trail has undoubtedly led to lighter/tougher components in general. You can't be a bike weenie and not be utterly fascinated with MTB technology. The fact that state of the art hard tail MTBs now routinely weigh 20-21 lbs, and full suspension rigs 23-25lbs is remarkable when you consider their capabilities. My new hard tail with the disc brakes and SID fork is similar in weight to bikes that were winning the Tour de France in 1970. That's too cool.
I recall when I first rode V brakes, they were amazing. Now it's disc brakes. The gear just keeps getting better. Very, very cool indeed. Whatever you think about mountain biking, it's a fascinating gear-fest that road cycling can't really match. Like some bizarro cross between cycling and off road motorcycles. |
I agree, though object to the term 'Road Nazi" on principle.
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And because you're more likely to break parts on your mountain bike, the justification to buy new things for it is sooooo much easier. "Dang, broke that rear derailleur...might as well upgrade the cables and front dr at the same time."
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Originally Posted by H1449-6
(Post 6683351)
I agree, though object to the term 'Road Nazi" on principle.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
(Post 6683229)
Mountain bikes have contributed so much to bicycle technology over the past 20+ years that it's hard to over estimate their influence on all of cycling. The whole sloping top tube geometry that is predominate in road bikes today came from MTBs. The stresses that bicycle components have to withstand on the trail has undoubtedly led to lighter/tougher components in general. You can't be a bike weenie and not be utterly fascinated with MTB technology. The fact that state of the art hard tail MTBs now routinely weigh 20-21 lbs, and full suspension rigs 23-25lbs is remarkable when you consider their capabilities. My new hard tail with the disc brakes and SID fork is similar in weight to bikes that were winning the Tour de France in 1970. That's too cool.
I recall when I first rode V brakes, they were amazing. Now it's disc brakes. The gear just keeps getting better. Very, very cool indeed. Whatever you think about mountain biking, it's a fascinating gear-fest that road cycling can't really match. Like some bizarro cross between cycling and off road motorcycles. Looks like Pcad's "Inventory" may surpass 2manybikes some day. I know where there is a trike for sale that will hold a 75 lbs. dog! |
Originally Posted by patentcad
(Post 6683229)
Mountain bikes have contributed so much to bicycle technology over the past 20+ years that it's hard to over estimate their influence on all of cycling. The whole sloping top tube geometry that is predominate in road bikes today came from MTBs. The stresses that bicycle components have to withstand on the trail has undoubtedly led to lighter/tougher components in general. You can't be a bike weenie and not be utterly fascinated with MTB technology. The fact that state of the art hard tail MTBs now routinely weigh 20-21 lbs, and full suspension rigs 23-25lbs is remarkable when you consider their capabilities. My new hard tail with the disc brakes and SID fork is similar in weight to bikes that were winning the Tour de France in 1970. That's too cool.
I recall when I first rode V brakes, they were amazing. Now it's disc brakes. The gear just keeps getting better. Very, very cool indeed. Whatever you think about mountain biking, it's a fascinating gear-fest that road cycling can't really match. Like some bizarro cross between cycling and off road motorcycles. I hear ya on the weight thing too. I just got this '78 Schwinn roadie that was basically Top Notch in '78. It's 26.5lbs w/o pedals!! It's a 1/2lb heavier than my burly XC Trail bike!! Gotta love people who break crap though...those are the people who advance the industry, hahaha. |
4 bicycles for Pcad, one for Mrs. Pcad, one for Pcadette. I can open a bike shop called Pcad's HTFU Velo Warehouse.
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Originally Posted by chelboed
(Post 6683544)
Gotta love people who break crap though...those are the people who advance the industry, hahaha. |
Originally Posted by patentcad
(Post 6683229)
I recall when I first rode V brakes, they were amazing. Now it's disc brakes. The gear just keeps getting better. Very, very cool indeed. Whatever you think about mountain biking, it's a fascinating gear-fest that road cycling can't really match. Like some bizarro cross between cycling and off road motorcycles.
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Originally Posted by Toddorado
(Post 6683661)
This is why I won't buy a proper road bike until they come equipped with discs or are at the very least, disc ready. I still haven't found a cross bike I like...
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Originally Posted by Toddorado
(Post 6683661)
This is why I won't buy a proper road bike until they come equipped with discs or are at the very least, disc ready. I still haven't found a cross bike I like...
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Originally Posted by patentcad
(Post 6683549)
4 bicycles for Pcad, one for Mrs. Pcad, one for Pcadette. I can open a bike shop called Pcad's HTFU Velo Warehouse.
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Originally Posted by chelboed
(Post 6683544)
this '78 Schwinn roadie that was basically Top Notch in '78. It's 26.5lbs w/o pedals!!
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Originally Posted by Toddorado
(Post 6683661)
This is why I won't buy a proper road bike until they come equipped with discs or are at the very least, disc ready. I still haven't found a cross bike I like...
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Originally Posted by mcoine
(Post 6683987)
It wasn't top notch. I have a '74ish maserati that isn't top notch and its about 21lbs with pedals.
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I take offense. I am fully versed in the art of Fred :thumb:
And to chelboed - I'm not sure where your comment comes from. Many cyclo bikes are equipped with discs. I don't want a weight-weenie 15 lb road bike, I want something durable, but with the geometry of a road bike, maybe 20 lbs. I hear Mike over at BD has a new Moto Fantom Cross in the works that is disc-ready? |
Originally Posted by telebianchi
(Post 6683374)
And because you're more likely to break parts on your mountain bike, the justification to buy new things for it is sooooo much easier. "Dang, broke that rear derailleur...might as well upgrade the cables and front dr at the same time."
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Originally Posted by patentcad
(Post 6683229)
The gear just keeps getting better. Very, very cool indeed. Whatever you think about mountain biking, it's a fascinating gear-fest that road cycling can't really match. Like some bizarro cross between cycling and off road motorcycles.
And the future's even better. Mark my words, the gearboxes are coming. Somehow, some way, super-light, ultra-reliable, put-in-anything-without-a-weight-penalty gearboxes, including CVTs and IVTs are coming . . . . |
Originally Posted by dminor
(Post 6684368)
You have a refreshing way of looking at it all; and I have to agree. The advances are what rekindled my interest in bicycles - - they started to more and more resemble my trusty IT175 :D
And the future's even better. Mark my words, the gearboxes are coming. Somehow, some way, super-light, ultra-reliable, put-in-anything-without-a-weight-penalty gearboxes, including CVTs and IVTs are coming . . . . |
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