I can get one with scratched shifters for wholesale at $280. I ride road 5 days of the week and need a little variety 2-3 times a month at the local trails. I won't be racing this thing but I can put out decent power at 200lb. I'll probably replace the shifters anyway but will the 8 spd. Alivio crap out after a few months? Is it the road equivalent of Tiagra? I guess it boils down to wrapping my head around a complete bike that costs less than one of my wheelsets.