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Old 05-30-08, 02:30 PM   #1
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Anyone have any experience with Hayes Soles?

My hardtail is currently running V's. Tektro V's with bent levers that could use new cables, and you have to squeeze the crap out of them for them to do much. However, fork, frame, wheels...it's all disc ready. Anyway, my new bike has Juicy 5's, and it took me all of one ride to get spoiled rotten. So I saw some Soles on Craigslist for $40...front and rear, all parts included. My initial response was "Holy crap, hydraulic Hayes for $40!" Emailed the guy and said that if they were still in decent condition and didn't need everything replaced, I might be interested. Supposedly the brakes have about 1500 miles on them but work fine and the pads are still good. Then I checked out mtbr, and noticed they got terrible reviews. I hesitate to put too much stock in sites with reviews like that, since people who post usually are either A) really, really happy with the product, B) really, really unhappy with the product, or C) just bought the product and are trying to justify their purchase. The reviews were still bad enough to give me pause though. I'm not in a huge, huge hurry to fix up this bike, and am mainly watching for parts on Craigslist. However, I hate to pass up $40 hydraulics if they're not bad, and I do want to get the bike back in fighting condition. Thanks guys!

EDIT: It would also probably cost $15 or so in gas to get there. So it's not really a $40 brake when all is said and done...call it around $55.

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Old 05-30-08, 05:15 PM   #2
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the soles only have 1 moving piston instead of 2 like most hydro brakes. they can be compared to a mechanical brake because mechanicals also only have 1 moving piston. the soles offer the feel of hydro brakes but i would say they are not up to par with other 2 piston designs. your call and money
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I've actually never used mechs. Before the Juicys, I had only ever used V's. What would I be missing out on with only 1 piston? Stopping power? The light one-finger pull it takes to stop, as opposed to squeezing the hell out of them with two? As stated before, there's no huge hurry, so if they really suck, I'd be fine with waiting for a quality set of mechs or a slightly better set of hydros come up.
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Sole's suck at life.
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Old 05-30-08, 08:47 PM   #6
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Haha, alright, so no Soles. Thanks...saved me some cash.
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Now from the other camp, I have soles on my FELT Q720, I like em! Here's the deal, I squeeze the lever, my bike stops, I've put them through some pretty good downhills and they work fine.
What more do you need.
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Now from the other camp, I have soles on my FELT Q720, I like em! Here's the deal, I squeeze the lever, my bike stops, I've put them through some pretty good downhills and they work fine.
What more do you need.
A set of good hydro's that are reliable on rougher terrain instead of a little grassy hill. They're so bad, that the hayes mechanicals get better reviews. I'm not kidding either, look it up in mtbr.

Cheap hydro's may feel good to someone who doesn't know better, but once you try a higher level hydro, those soles will never feel right to you again.
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A little full of yourself aren't you mr smashy? Did I say I had just rode them "on a little grassy hill"? I've used them on pretty serious rockgardens and some very rugged single track and they work , east tn is not known for being very flat.
Now as for not "knowing better" you may be right and you may not but if they work for me and I am satisfied that means all reviews are not bad.
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^^^Ouch. That was a bit harsh.

People tend to sway toward what they already have and that's fine and dandy. But when someone upgrades, it's for a reason.

Glad they work for you in your application.

But the other works for him in his application.

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I know the Eastern part of Tenn rather well and while there are some good sections of trail, but I have ridden better trails in other parts of the country. So don't go psycho over a general example. Rock Gardens, what are those?


There's never a single ride here that doesn't involve long stretches of rocks of some kind. The North East is kind of weird like that, so I don't need to hear about dangerous rock gardens.

Listen, I'm just telling the truth here, the soles have some major faults to them, pistons failing in them, their inconsistent feel of modulation and the constant loss of adjustment. If they work for you then that's great, you've gotten lucky with them which is rare in this case, but having repaired a bunch of Sole's, in general, that brakeset is nothing but trouble.
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ouch

ownage.

Hayes soles do suck.

HFX 9s are alright though.
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Well said Mr Smashy, my apologies for the harshness. Neat picture by the way, where is that?
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