Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 36
  1. #1
    Senior Member Smallguy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Posts
    1,331
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    confidence clipped in

    Hi everyone

    besides the stop being a big baby remarks what else can I do to improve my confidence when clipped in

    I ride time Attack pedals and have used wellgo pedals as well but when I'm riding tight single track I very hesitant to clip in because my balance is not the best and I've had a few nasty spills which I would have avoided if I could unclip in time.

    the single track where I ride is very rocky and rooty so falling in it is not fun, since soft spots are not always there for falling on


    any tips on improving ones confidence or riding single track in general ??

  2. #2
    Official Website Waterboy born2bahick's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    My Bikes
    a lot
    Posts
    3,271
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    More seat time is the best cure all! Wish I could offer some hidden secret.

  3. #3
    one less horse cryptid01's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    East Jesus NY
    My Bikes
    are better than yours
    Posts
    5,596
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Visualize and execute.

  4. #4
    Senior Member rb07's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    STL, MO
    My Bikes
    05 Specialized Rockhopper, 70s Motobécane Grand Touring
    Posts
    164
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Go somewhere with soft ground and practice clipping in and out, especially at different angles of "falling". Do track stands or other tricks that may cause you to quickly lose balance and need to clip out.
    '07 Specialized Allez Comp | '08 Santa Cruz Superlight RXC | '08 Kona Jake the Snake | '70s Motobécane Grand Touring

  5. #5
    Senior Member rankin116's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Troylet
    Posts
    3,730
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by rb07 View Post
    Go somewhere with soft ground and practice clipping in and out, especially at different angles of "falling". Do track stands or other tricks that may cause you to quickly lose balance and need to clip out.
    Yeah, that is the best advice. And stop being such a wussy!

    Seriously though, I find I am much less confident on platforms after being on clipless for quite some time now.

  6. #6
    World's slowest cyclist.
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Londonderry, NH
    My Bikes
    Cannondale CAAD5 and Cannondale Rush
    Posts
    1,353
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by rb07 View Post
    Go somewhere with soft ground and practice clipping in and out, especially at different angles of "falling". Do track stands or other tricks that may cause you to quickly lose balance and need to clip out.
    How about doing it in a doorway so you don't have to actually fall?

  7. #7
    World's slowest cyclist.
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Londonderry, NH
    My Bikes
    Cannondale CAAD5 and Cannondale Rush
    Posts
    1,353
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by rankin116 View Post
    Seriously though, I find I am much less confident on platforms after being on clipless for quite some time now.
    Me too. Much less connected feel on platforms, plus I end up getting whacked by a pedal in the shins all too often. I can't ride platforms off-road anymore.

  8. #8
    Smarter Than He Looks Sinker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Delaware
    My Bikes
    Shopping
    Posts
    29
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Here's what worked for me:

    Last year, as an over-aged beginner with lousy balance, I tried clipless pedals. I fell during almost evey ride. Never at speed; always during slow, technical stuff (tight turns, rocks, roots, etc). I figured it wasn't worth it, so I took the clipless pedals off and rode the rest of the year w/platforms and stiff shoes and had a blast...no worries, just ride.

    This spring, (year two!) I put the clipless pedals back on the bike, and guess what? It's easy! I don't fall, and I rarely even think about the pedals.

  9. #9
    Newbie
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Posts
    3
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    What worked for me when I was learning was to start out with the spring tension very loose, allowing for really easy clipouts. Then when I felt more confident I tightened it up a little bit.

  10. #10
    I am an incurable. delay's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Champaign, IL
    My Bikes
    IRO Mark V pro (RIP), Bianchi Giro, Giant Xtc1, Redline Conquest Pro, Kelly Deluxe singlespeed.
    Posts
    993
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    The most important thing is to just keep doing it. Also, you need to accept that you are going to fall. More likely than not it won't be that bad and the pedals won't even be something you think about.

    One thing that I found helped my confidence (and still does) is ride with people who are much faster than me. When I see them take a turn at speed or clean some section I know its possible, and I have some reference of how its done.

  11. #11
    BFG
    BFG is offline
    Just say no to brakes. BFG's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Guildford...Perth...Western Australia
    My Bikes
    Giant Rincon, Sanki road bike, Iron Horse SGS and DBR BSX Comp.
    Posts
    1,689
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    My mum just had her first "woops, didn't clip out!" crash the other day, now I can call her a real cyclist.

    Chris F's doorway idea rocks so damn hard.

  12. #12
    World's slowest cyclist.
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Londonderry, NH
    My Bikes
    Cannondale CAAD5 and Cannondale Rush
    Posts
    1,353
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by BFG View Post
    Chris F's doorway idea rocks so damn hard.
    Wish I could take credit. The guy at the LBS gave me that advice when I bought my first set of clipless pedals/shoes from him. Gotta love the LBS, I doubt I'd have gotten that advice from a discount web page.

  13. #13
    Duathlete indygreg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Indianapolis, IN
    Posts
    1,157
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    The door frame thing also works for rollers. I think in this case though, a grass yard is far superior to the doorframe or hallway. Why? I think you can simulate much more out there and really get better. In a door you are not moving so you have a better idea of when the fall is coming and can control it better. Go outside and ride as slow as you can while turning back and forth. This is what MTB riding is like . . . you will start to tip when your foot is in the worst spot on your weakest side when you are applying power . . . and it is a ***** to get out. Falling on grass does not hurt. Not even weenies like me. Also do track stands out there. Go faster and stop and try to stay up for 1 second then go. Then 5 seconds. Put out plastic cups that you have to slalom around and have someone yell out stop at random times. You have to grab both brakes full on when you hear that. Then try to bunny hop and do some of that stuff (sorry, do not know the name) where you stop and bounce and rock to get on and over something.
    This is all stuff I am starting to do now to get better. And I road for 2 years clipless on the road. MTB clipless is a totally different beast.
    Run, Bike, Run.

  14. #14
    Generic Title ProFail's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    North Carolina
    My Bikes
    2008 Trek Fuel EX7, 2007 Trek 1600, 2007 Eastern Warthog
    Posts
    1,927
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by indygreg View Post
    Then try to bunny hop and do some of that stuff (sorry, do not know the name) where you stop and bounce and rock to get on and over something.
    Trials.

    Very, very simplified trials.
    Generic Joke

  15. #15
    Senior Member rbrsddn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Madison, CT
    My Bikes
    '98 Rhygin SS road,'99 Fat Chance Ti Fat, '95 Azonic Mtn bike, '88 Giant Sedona.
    Posts
    617
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    My first ride with time Atac's ended up with me popping a wheelie off balance and 3rd degree seperating my rt shoulder. So everything after that was easy! I don't recommend learning that way, although Vicodin is a good buzz.
    1999 Fat Chance Ti
    1998 Rhygin SS road

  16. #16
    Senior Member c_m_shooter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Paradise, TX
    My Bikes
    Surly Cross Check, Redline Monocog 29er, Generic Track bike, Surly Pugsley, Salsa Fargo, Schwinn Klunker
    Posts
    1,518
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Learn to trackstand. Ride around in your yard and slow down as much as possible, just before you lose your balance pedal off. Repeat for awhile and you will learn to stop for a few seconds without unclipping. It does woders for your confidence in technical sections.
    May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view.
    May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. -Edward Abbey

  17. #17
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Mississippi
    My Bikes
    Gary Fisher Hoo Koo E Koo
    Posts
    79
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Doorway gives you muscle memory then you go outside to simulate riding. Just going outside is going to end up with more falls. More about safety and confidence than being a wuss.

  18. #18
    bac
    bac is offline
    Senior Member bac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Pennsylvania
    My Bikes
    Too many to list!
    Posts
    7,487
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    More time in the saddle with your clipless setup is the cure for sure. We all had to go through this learning stage. Before long, it will all be instinct!

    Oh yeah - quit being such a wuss! (joking - of course!)

    ... Brad

  19. #19
    Mmmmm potatoes idcruiserman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Idaho
    Posts
    1,921
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I haven't used Time pedals, but if possible, set them up with loose spring tension.
    Idaho

  20. #20
    Getting older and slower
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Silicon Valley, CA, USA
    My Bikes
    Beat-up commuter, Chumba XCL for the dirt
    Posts
    102
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I've been using SPD-type pedals for years. I've taken a number of spills on the trail but I always come out of the clips. The trick is to set the clip tension as loose as you can without accidentally pulling out. Unfortunately I don't think you can do this with the Times, they don't have a tension adjustment.

  21. #21
    slowpoke extraordinaire Freaknhell's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    butter
    My Bikes
    giant ocr2 - cannondale six13
    Posts
    87
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Before you know it you won't even think about it. It didn't take me that long to get used to it, now I would feel completely uncomfortable not clipped in. You might want to set yourself up against a tree or wall and just clip/unclip over and over again. That helped me quite a bit.

  22. #22
    Zan
    Zan is offline
    Senior Member Zan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Waterloo, ONT
    My Bikes
    Road: Trek 1.5 (2007). Mountain: Santa Cruz Chameleon (2008). Beater: Peugeot Recorde du Monde (1850)
    Posts
    1,417
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    i'm in the same situation. i used to ride with straps, and upgraded to clipless. the transition was nothing for riding on my road bike - i was used to the idea. i've been riding recently for the first time off road and clipless.

    struggling in tight areas too - i'm used to twisting my ankles for leans when moving slow. i clip out at the most inconvenient times... either that or i DON'T clip out, but can't get the right lean (it's a habit i'll break).

    to solve my problem i'm going to drop the tension on the pedals (running Shimano M520's) so it's easy to clip in and out. i can clip out and still balance, but i find it a hassle to clip back in 'cause the tricky bits last a while - i just don't have the time to pull a revolution or two - gotta be in in maybe half a crank!

    maybe you can drop tension too? if not, just ride and get used to it. takes time, for sure.
    -- Zan

    "Every dog needs a squeak toy."

  23. #23
    ÖöÖöÖöÖöÖö Dannihilator's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    Annandale, NJ.
    My Bikes
    2014 Surly Steamroller, 1977 Puch Pathfinder
    Posts
    18,737
    Mentioned
    18 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Zan View Post
    i'm in the same situation. i used to ride with straps, and upgraded to clipless. the transition was nothing for riding on my road bike - i was used to the idea. i've been riding recently for the first time off road and clipless.

    struggling in tight areas too - i'm used to twisting my ankles for leans when moving slow. i clip out at the most inconvenient times... either that or i DON'T clip out, but can't get the right lean (it's a habit i'll break).

    to solve my problem i'm going to drop the tension on the pedals (running Shimano M520's) so it's easy to clip in and out. i can clip out and still balance, but i find it a hassle to clip back in 'cause the tricky bits last a while - i just don't have the time to pull a revolution or two - gotta be in in maybe half a crank!

    maybe you can drop tension too? if not, just ride and get used to it. takes time, for sure.
    Don't drop the tension on the pedals. Shifting your weight will work better.
    Strike like an eagle and sacrifice the dove.
    Words and Stuff.

  24. #24
    Zan
    Zan is offline
    Senior Member Zan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Waterloo, ONT
    My Bikes
    Road: Trek 1.5 (2007). Mountain: Santa Cruz Chameleon (2008). Beater: Peugeot Recorde du Monde (1850)
    Posts
    1,417
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Smashy View Post
    Don't drop the tension on the pedals. Shifting your weight will work better.
    i dropped the tension down to min for today's ride with the guys. i find it a lot easier to clip in and out - i prefer it this way. takes almost no effort to clip out... i felt a lot better and didn't mind attacking the hard/tricky bits as much - i did better than i normally do! (psyche thing, i'm sure)

    i don't like plats 'cause i slip off the front or back and shred my shins/calves. i like the clipless for this reason - i don't really use the "pull up" advantage for my trail riding, only for roads.
    -- Zan

    "Every dog needs a squeak toy."

  25. #25
    ****** (can I say this?)
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    CO
    Posts
    1,900
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Just remember that you can have the tension tight for road/non-technical riding, then when the riding gets technical just re-loosen them.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •