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Old 07-05-08, 02:08 PM   #1
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Gonna Put A Brooks B17 On My Trek Plus Other Upgrades

I currently have two bikes - a Surly Long Haul Trucker set up as a pure road bike with skinny high-pressure tires, and a Trek 820 mountain bike.

I usually ride the Surly, and normally go for 30+ mile rides each Saturday and Sunday. I converted the Trek into a Winter/Bad Weather bike with lights and fenders. I really don't do any "mountain biking" per se, but kind of like the option of the wide low-pressure tires for riding on gravel or other "unimproved" surfaces. Still, most of my saddle time happens on the Trucker.

I've been seriously riding for about 1 - 1/2 years now, and when I got started I had chafing issues from the saddles that came on my bikes. The Trek came with some sort of no-name saddle, and it was the worst. The Surly (custom built at my LBS) had a Wilderness Trail Speed saddle on it, and it was quite a bit more comfortable, but I still experienced some chafing.

Of course I tried all of the various chamios-padded shorts, various lubes and powders, etc.

Then I put a Brooks B17 on the Surly, and all of the chafing stopped.

Yesterday we had some major rain. Every time this happens there are lots of gravel driveways, as well as other debris, that end up being washed onto the roads, and the gravel/mud over blacktop is not real friendly to the 700 x 28 tires on the Trucker. This morning I decided to dust off the Trek and take it for a spin. Before leaving, though, I removed the no-name saddle and replaced it with the Wilderness Trail jobbie that came on the Trucker.

By the time I got back I noticed the start of some chafing again.

I noticed that the Brooks B17 leather is very slippery against one's shorts. The synthetic WTB saddle is kind of grippy. I think what causes the chafing with synthetic saddles is that my shorts stick to the plastic and thus rub against my skin, while with the Brooks the shorts slide against the leather and therefore don't rub against my skin.

I just ordered another B17 for the Trek.

Funny thing, though. I just looked through pages and pages of pics of mountain bikes in the pics thread, and I saw nary a Brooks saddle. With the popularity of Brooks saddles on road and touring bikes, why don't more of the mountain bikers go that way?

Also, due to the restricted hand position on the flat-bar Trek I get some numbness in my hands after 1/2 hour or so, I'm thinking about converting to some other handlebar options. I'm torn between just adding bar ends, or going whole-hog with maybe some Trekking bars. Any suggestions?

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Old 07-05-08, 02:20 PM   #2
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On a mountain bike, grippy is a good thing.

EDIT: I mean a mountain bike that's actually ridden like a mountain bike.
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Old 07-05-08, 03:44 PM   #3
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On a mountain bike, grippy is a good thing.

EDIT: I mean a mountain bike that's actually ridden like a mountain bike.
Yeah, but not to grippy like the one on my C'dale (sometimes it rips my pants off when I try to go behind it during tecky stuff)
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riding the brooks in the rain can damage the leather. there are covers that you can get to prevent this though, just thought id bring it up.
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I'm putting a B17 on my new Monocog 29er. Rain can damage them, but rain can damage a lot of things if they're not protected. Covers are definitely worthwhile, but equally so are frequent applications of Proofide.

Anyway, I think you made the right choice.
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Old 07-05-08, 05:21 PM   #6
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Funny thing, though. I just looked through pages and pages of pics of mountain bikes in the pics thread, and I saw nary a Brooks saddle. With the popularity of Brooks saddles on road and touring bikes, why don't more of the mountain bikers go that way?
The fact that Brooks costs more, weighs more, and requires more maintenance/fussing than a typical mtb saddle probably has something to do with it.

You can get a DMR Dirt saddle at jenson usa that weighs 80 grams less than a Brooks B17 and costs 71 cents more than a can of proofide.

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Old 07-07-08, 09:11 AM   #7
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riding the brooks in the rain can damage the leather. there are covers that you can get to prevent this though, just thought id bring it up.
I have a Brooks on my other bike, and outside of a applying a little Proofide once in a while, I don't really get the "high-maintenance" thing. As for getting it wet, hey, it's leather. Leather comes from cows. Where I come from, cows stand out in the rain all the time and seem no worse for wear.

Keep in mind that I don't use this "mountain bike" as a "typical" mountain bike - no jumps, hops, or anything like that. Hey, I'm an old guy, and I'd probably break a hip of something! I use it for riding on gravel roads/trails, etc., and for winter, or for when my traditional road bike is down. It's more of a "sport-utility-vehicle" bicycle, instead of a "serious off-road" jeep type of thing.

I'll post a pic when I'm done.
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I have a Brooks Flyer on my Trek 970. I was using it as a true MTB for a good while and it worked great. No special protection needed other than to avoid getting it soaking wet. Splashed on water or mud was no problem.


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