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Old 07-06-08, 06:04 PM   #1
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Pcad Cycling Zen Update

The enhancement of Pcad Cycling Zen due to this new hard tail I got two months ago cannot be overstated. I've been out once a week in the woods, this week twice. Forget about it. LOVING the MTB mix. I'm also starting to embrace the chaos of MTB handling, the more relaxed I get, the less I put my foot down or fall.

You MTB weenies may be onto something.
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Pcad, starting to see the light. Could there be a road bike sale in the near future?
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Pcad, starting to see the light. Could there be a road bike sale in the near future?
I'll sell my road bikes as soon as you win the Tour de France. Now back to your bong and your Birkenstocks : ). But I must confess, I rode 6 days this week, 2 of them on the MTB, and I'm just ecstatic. My MTB handling is coming around a bit, loving the Fly Ti simplicity, light weight, ride and handling. Perfect so far. Exactly what I wanted in an MTB.

I'll always be a die hard roadie, but this is really mixing it up. Keeps me mentally fresh with all the miles I ride. I need the variety. Love being in the woods, it's cool out there.
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"OH yeah.......Jimmy played pretty good."
"What d'you got there?"
"These are Jimmy's training shoes."
"Yeah,yeah yeah yeah! I've seen these.....they sorta ..they make your legs..stronger."
"Oh yeah! Jimmy couldn't jump at all before he got these. Jimmy was like you."
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"OH yeah.......Jimmy played pretty good."
"What d'you got there?"
"These are Jimmy's training shoes."
"Yeah,yeah yeah yeah! I've seen these.....they sorta ..they make your legs..stronger."
"Oh yeah! Jimmy couldn't jump at all before he got these. Jimmy was like you."
I would say that sums it up rather nicely.
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I would say that sums it up rather nicely.
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Hey chelboed, out of sheer curiosity, what's your favorite brand of tire?
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Hey chelboed, out of sheer curiosity, what's your favorite brand of tire?
Graffix, bro...same with all us dopers


Edit: I support Kenda b/c they have been good to me. I support Jamis b/c they know how to build a good "blue collar" bike.
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Jamis bikes RULE. My pal used to work for them @ their offices in Rockleigh NJ. Very innovative little bicycle company.
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Patent "chainsaw" cad writes of Zen.
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Patent "chainsaw" cad writes of Zen.
That does remind me. I have been meaning to get over there with the chainsaw to clear some single track and fire road, but first I had to get a new chain for the saw, never got around to it etc. Today I was negotiating my favorite stretch of single track and somebody beat me to it. Which ROCKED, I was able to ride uninterrupted today. But the fire road still needs attention, I'll try to get out there this week.
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I'll sell my road bikes as soon as you win the Tour de France. Now back to your bong and your Birkenstocks : ). But I must confess, I rode 6 days this week, 2 of them on the MTB, and I'm just ecstatic. My MTB handling is coming around a bit, loving the Fly Ti simplicity, light weight, ride and handling. Perfect so far. Exactly what I wanted in an MTB.

I'll always be a die hard roadie, but this is really mixing it up. Keeps me mentally fresh with all the miles I ride. I need the variety. Love being in the woods, it's cool out there.
I'm a little back in the GC right now but when my new carbon Birkenstocks get here I expect to dominate in the Alps. Stay tuned.
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I get dropped just watching those Tdf boys on TV. They're too fast for Pcad.
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Pcad, same boat as you... except I'm still at the point where my road legs get a little heavy from time on the trail.

Last Friday after two hours on the trail, I almost took myself out when I got on my roadie for my real ride. The handling was that drastic.

This MTB thing is really a different animal—it took a while to stop cringing at the site of gravel. I may have the fitness to take on any of the climbs around here, but it's my brain that blows up trying to think my way up the rocks. There's just so much crap on the trail and decisions to make. I guess with experience I'll just have a general idea of how a line will ride.

Makes me wonder what challenges, if any at all, road riding has for MTBers.

Curious, what's your saddle height on your MTB compared to your roadie? Mine's just a centimeter lower, which might explain my dread of descents.
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Curious, do you find it helping on the road at all? Have you had any off road lance moments
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I don't find the MTB riding really helps my road bike handling, but my road bike handling is pretty dialed in. As for seat height, it's about the same between my MTB and road bike, relative to the differing pedal cleat systems.
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So PCad, when you coming to Costa Rica to bunny hop chickens with me? Now that you have a decent bike, you have no excuse.
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Makes me wonder what challenges, if any at all, road riding has for MTBers.
I started out as a MTB'er and went to road riding. The only technical challenge is riding in pace lines/drafting. The communication (hand signals) was new, as was re-programming the brain to not run over sand/gravel, but that happens relatively quick (only make that mistake once). There's no realy handling challenge (heck, riding through sand on the road bike is pretty easy compared to what happens on the single track).

The BIG challenge is the physical fitness. You just don't need to be able to hammer quite as long or quite as hard on a MTB as you do on a road bike. I think the pair makes a great combo, and if you love mountain biking you'd probably love road biking, and visa versa, and both beneift your riding greatly.
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So PCad, when you coming to Costa Rica to bunny hop chickens with me? Now that you have a decent bike, you have no excuse.
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I think the pair makes a great combo, and if you love mountain biking you'd probably love road biking, and visa versa, and both beneift your riding greatly.
I ride around 175 miles a week on the road. Since I started hitting the trails the last couple of weeks, I've been thinking of cutting out the morning recovery rides and doing MTB instead.

It's ideal for recovery—I'm often at zone 0.5 (because more often than not I'm walking); it's a lot less boring; and the new challenges and different riding mentality are just really refreshing. It's like a reset button for cycling fun.
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I think the pair makes a great combo, and if you love mountain biking you'd probably love road biking, and visa versa, and both beneift your riding greatly.
Correct.

And trust me, you are not the world's slowest cyclist. There's always Chipcom.
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Makes me wonder what challenges, if any at all, road riding has for MTBers.
#1 is fitness and endurance. Holding a mid level pace for well, hours, is totally different than MTB
#2 fear. I am sure many MTB'ers are plenty scared when they get out in a big pak with people inches away or when cars fly by them at 50mph. While on their cell phones. Texting. And drinking a coffee..
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