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    Lightest fluid for Avid Codes on XC bike?

    Hi guys,

    I've been plaguing y'all with questions lately...

    So I've put these Avid Codes on my 2004 Jamis Komodo which "everyone knows" that in 2004 the Komodo was a Portly'ish trail bike, not the Hefty freeride hardtail like contemporary design.

    Anyways...since installing my new XC Avid Codes, my bike has gone from 26lbs 6oz to 26lbs 10oz and I attribute it all to the larger amount of fluid in the master cyl and calipers. Is there a lighter oil that I can use or maybe even 5wt motor oil mixed with water?

    Gastro has already tuned me into the Organic pads with Ti backing plates.


    What can I do to make racing weight but still have enough stopping power to lock up my rear wheel to slide around on the trail?



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    Brake pads with ti backing plates....

    You are dead to me. Go ride your bike you friggin' weight weenie. 26 pounds is light to me and you're losing sleep over 4oz.
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    The way I see it, You have to lighten up the rubber, you live in Kansas. So nice 1.8 or 1.9 set of skins might be the do-it-all tread to meet you "weight weenie" requirements. What about the KOT's


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    Huh, XC Avid Codes. That a new model?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenLi View Post
    Huh, XC Avid Codes. That a new model?
    Yeah, instead of the CODE, they're called the code

    Quote Originally Posted by born2bahick View Post
    The way I see it, You have to lighten up the rubber, you live in Kansas. So nice 1.8 or 1.9 set of skins might be the do-it-all tread to meet you "weight weenie" requirements. What about the KOT's
    Does anyone make a good 1.6 or 1.7" aggressive "All Mountain" tire? I don't know if the KOT's will be aggressive enough for the gnarliness we have here.
    Last edited by ed; 09-14-08 at 07:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chelboed View Post
    Does anyone make a good 1.6 or 1.7" aggressive "All Mountain" tire? I don't know if the KOT's will be aggressive enough for the gnarliness we have here.
    Doubtfully. 1.6 is about 40mm, CX width. It will be anything but aggressive. Light, yes. Sticky, I don't think so.
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    I suggest you take a ***** before riding. I know I can easily unload 4 oz. or even more.
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    The caveat with a strap-on, of course, is you will have to get creative with a couple of lock cables and an anchor point

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    Quote Originally Posted by junkyard View Post
    I suggest you take a ***** before riding. I know I can easily unload 4 oz. or even more.
    That's nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProFail View Post
    That's nice.
    I try not to beat around the bush.
    Quote Originally Posted by dminor View Post
    The caveat with a strap-on, of course, is you will have to get creative with a couple of lock cables and an anchor point

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    Maybe I can go with a super light radial lacing on my Hope Pro II / EX5.1d's. That's sure to take an oz or 2 off...maybe?

    How 'bout 4ti's...will they take my occasional 5ft to flat?
    Last edited by ed; 09-14-08 at 08:45 PM.

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    This thread is a joke, right?

    Are you running XTR or XO? How about carbon bars?

    How about a lighter fork? Is that an old vanilla? I mean, c'mon now. Fluid? Fluid?

    I think I just peed a little.
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    I say drain all the fluid and do a hydraulic-pneumatic conversion.

    ...I mean, it works for trucks....

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    ^^ now were getting somewhere!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenLi View Post
    I say drain all the fluid and do a hydraulic-pneumatic conversion.

    ...I mean, it works for trucks....
    I never thought about that. I do have an old air sprung fork that I could rob some air seals from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oleanshoebox View Post
    Are you running XTR or XO?
    I'm running an XT Shadow with an LX shifter.


    Quote Originally Posted by Oleanshoebox View Post
    How about carbon bars?
    I'm afraid of carbon...everyone says that if you put Lock-on's on it or if you brush by a tree branch...the carbon will unravel like a sweater.


    Quote Originally Posted by Oleanshoebox View Post
    Is that an old vanilla?
    Old is subjective. It's not as old as 66. I prefer "experienced". Old is different. Old forks only work when they have to...mine is in its middle-aged prime.


    Quote Originally Posted by Oleanshoebox View Post
    I think I just peed a little.

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    ^^^

    "middle-aged prime."

    I like that, Ed.
    "I tell you, We are here on earth to fart around, and don't let anybody tell you any different." - Kurt Vonnegut jr.

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    Locking up the back wheel to slide around is going to tear up the trails, but you could probably get lighter with some smaller tires. Some 2.1's should be a happy compromise. If you still want to get lighter, you could take some stickers off, ride without underwear, or wipe any dust off the frame.

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    Why don't you just shorten your cables?
    And my god you got issues.
    Worrying about 4oz on a 26lb HT.
    Switch out to some XC brakes if the weight is huge. You can lock up your rear with rim brakes if you want.

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    At least you're getting full travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mondaycurse View Post
    Locking up the back wheel to slide around is going to tear up the trails
    But on the Mountain Dew commercials, they make it look cool. It's just dirt, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by mondaycurse View Post
    you could probably get lighter with some smaller tires
    We've already discussed that...possibly a Cross tire will be what I need.

    Quote Originally Posted by mondaycurse View Post
    you could take some stickers off,
    I tried...then I weighed them and they were only 8grams with the clear coat still stuck on there. I had to call Jamis to send me some new ones b/c it looked stupid.

    Quote Originally Posted by mondaycurse View Post
    ride without underwear, or wipe any dust off the frame.
    Come on, man! Let's not let this thread get ridiculous.

    Quote Originally Posted by mondaycurse View Post
    or wipe any dust off the frame.
    There's not a whole lot of dust in the frame, but I was considering removing the water bottle screws to save weight. Do you think it will let dust get inside the frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbgobie View Post
    Why don't you just shorten your cables?
    I did already. Should they be shorter? How will I learn bar-spins with super short cables?


    Quote Originally Posted by bbgobie View Post
    Switch out to some XC brakes if the weight is huge. You can lock up your rear with rim brakes if you want.
    Because I need the toughest, most advanced brake set available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chelboed View Post
    Because I need the toughest, most advanced brake set available.
    Sounds like you should look into the Hayes So1e, or the Tektro Auriga Comp.

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    Get out the dremel, Ed. You can grind out every other 'spoke' on your disc rotors; that should get it back to fighting weight.

    Oh, and photo 2 is wayyyyy oversaturated. Desaturate pics of your bike and it will at least appear lighter .

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    Quote Originally Posted by dminor View Post
    Get out the dremel, Ed. You can grind out every other 'spoke' on your disc rotors; that should get it back to fighting weight.

    Oh, and photo 2 is wayyyyy oversaturated. Desaturate pics of your bike and it will at least appear lighter .
    Haha...I'm surprised nobody has mentioned those yet. I took them at night with a 30sec shutter time. It was dark enough that I could barely see. The first pic, I shined a flashlight on the levers and rear rotor. Kewl effect, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BFG View Post
    Sounds like you should look into the Hayes So1e, or the Tektro Auriga Comp.
    Yeah, those Tektro's look pretty slick...if they're lighter, maybe I could sell the Code for enough coin to get those. I'll have to check ebay prices though. None of the other XC'ers I ride with are interested in Codes.


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