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Old 10-20-08, 01:46 PM   #1
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The demise of vagrancy...

Alright...here it is:










TransAM Hardtail Full Specs
We don't normally pre-release info to this degree on our new bike models but we have had a ton of people asking for it so here it is.

The TransAM hardtail is our all mountain cromoly hardtail that can be run either singlespeed or with gears using our proprietary dropout system designed by our very own Kyle Young. The bike is designed to be light, fast and strong enough for your everyday all mountain riding. What do we mean by all mountain? All mountain to us encompasses all types of riding, a little mellow DH, XC, light duty freeride, and just good old singletrack riding. For a hardtail to handle all these disciplines you have to be very carefull with your geo as to not make the angles lean towards one single style. For the frame we choose double butted 4130 japanese chromoly. The feel is perfect for trail riding. It absorbs the ground nicely with slight flex but is stiff enough for strong pedal response and whipping around corners.

GEOMETRY AND SPECS:
SIZES: Small (16.5"), Medium (18"), Large (19.5")
TOP TUBE (Effective): SM 22.25", MD 23.25", LG 24.2"
HEAD ANGLE: 68.5
SEAT TUBE ANGLE: 72.5
AXLE TO CROWN: 516mm (Pike 140mm)
CHAINSTAY: 16.65"-16.85"
WHEELBASE: SM 42", MD 43.2, LG 44.2"
Integrated Campy Style Headset
Weight: Right around 6 lbs. for the small frame
QR Seat Clamp (We are getting rid of the brazed on pinch collar and all bikes will ship with a QR seat clamp)
Availability: Late November 2008
Price: TBD

RUNNING 160mm FORKS:
We designed the frame around a 140mm fork like a Pike but also with the intention of knowing that many of you would be wanting to run a 160mm fork like a 36 or Lyric on it. This is totally fine to do and does not rake the bike out too much or jack the front end up super high. With the bike running a Pike it sits fairly low and steep and is crazy responsive with some of the quickest handling of any bike we have every produced. Putting a 160mm fork definitely slows the bike down a bit on the handling side but it by no means takes away from the overall performance. People that run 160mm forks on their bikes generally appreciate bikes with slacker angles so the bike feels right at home with the large fork.

Cam and I both run singlespeed setups on our bikes and it proved the perfect setup for Zion style trails. The trails are generally flat with short burst of up and downhills where having a singlespeed you can power through uphills on is a huge benefit. Plus there are tons of rocks to hit your derailleurs on which we didn't have to worry about.

For all those freeriders looking for a hardtail they can use for winter riding or just hitting trails on the TransAM is a great crossover bike. It almost feels like a slightly taller dirt jumping bike that you can throw around any trail. It jumps and decends pefectly and accelerates like no other bike. The chromoly frame is very forgiving on the trail and has just the right amount of flex.

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So in general, does steel not need to be as reinforced as aluminum?
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They said that it's supposed to replace the Vagrant...but the Vagrant is a FRHT, not an AMHT.

Not sure if it's as tough as the Vagrant was.

I don't know how thick the head tube is, but even Chris King thinks the integrated headset is a boneheaded idea.
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So in general, does steel not need to be as reinforced as aluminum?
In Ed's case it will have to be.
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In Ed's case it will have to be.
If you hit a teeter fast enough it just becomes a booter.
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You should learn to relax, like this guy!
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Hehe...I wanna take the new one up there. I hear the pump track is done too.
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Fancy Creek first! I'll pick you up and drive you, if that's what it take to get you there!
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Soon, sir...soon.

Alright, now back to the TransAm:
Maybe I should sell my current rig and build one???





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Look a bit like mine



I like the dropouts though, wish mine was designed with single speed in mind.
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I've seen other people set up their tension on the other side of the chain effectively pushing it upward and hugging the sprockets more. Adv vs. Disadv?
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Look a bit like mine

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. . . in the way a Tootsie Roll resembles a dog turd.





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I've seen other people set up their tension on the other side of the chain effectively pushing it upward and hugging the sprockets more. Adv vs. Disadv?
I have no idea, I just followed the directions. I bought an ISCG chain guide to go with it, but it didn't fit. Either I ordered the ISCG05 one, or they sent the wrong one. Either way I returned it. Then I bought a Blackspire blackguard, but it didn't fit either, rubbed the chain stay. So I just tightened the tensioner pretty good, and so far I have yet to drop the chain.

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J/K hahahahahaha!!
Oh I know, mine sucks!!

But what I meant is that it looks like a similar design, but not as reinforced. I don't know much about the strengths of steel vs. aluminum though.
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Steel is a slightly stonger material than aluminum. When done right, steel hardtail frames doesn't need as much gusset work as aluminum does. You also don't need all the surface area for tubing with a steel frame. That and for weight reasons is why steel frames have smaller diameter tubing than an aluminum frame.
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I like the looks, but I don't know if I like the wheel base though, looks to be a bit on the long side for a hardtail.

Edit, nevermind, it's just my eyes playing tricks on me.
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Better than a bag of crack.
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I've seen other people set up their tension on the other side of the chain effectively pushing it upward and hugging the sprockets more. Adv vs. Disadv?


chain tensioner like the pic will drop the chain faster than a baby drops asparagus


run the chain over the tensioner, and then tie the tensioner up with a tie wrap
or just run a half link chain and skip the device altogether
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Better than gold pot?
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run the chain over the tensioner, and then tie the tensioner up with a tie wrap
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Mmm, that Transition would look nice with some Stroker Trails and an RST...
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Sure Doug...sure.
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. . . better than a pot o' honey for sure - -



Now that you mention it, Ben, a white Storm Air and Stroker Trails would be pretty sweet on that
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chain tensioner like the pic will drop the chain faster than a baby drops asparagus


run the chain over the tensioner, and then tie the tensioner up with a tie wrap
or just run a half link chain and skip the device altogether
I guess if I start dropping the chain, I'll think about changing it. So far so good though.
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